A Republican we can all agree is an idiot

werepossum

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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...broden_22tex.ART0.State.Edition1.33278a9.html

Republican congressional candidate Stephen Broden stunned his party Thursday, saying he would not rule out violent overthrow of the government if elections did not produce a change in leadership.

In a rambling exchange during a TV interview, Broden, a South Dallas pastor, said a violent uprising "is not the first option," but it is "on the table." That drew a quick denunciation from the head of the Dallas County GOP, who called the remarks "inappropriate."

Broden, a first-time candidate, is challenging veteran incumbent Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson in Dallas' heavily Democratic 30th Congressional District. Johnson's campaign declined to comment on Broden.
Violent overthrow of the government is of course always on the table as a last resort, but only a complete idiot thinks it is a remedy because your side lost an election.
 

CallMeJoe

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What was your reaction to Sharron Angle's mention of "Second Amendment remedies" to Congress?
I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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What was your reaction to Sharron Angle's mention of "Second Amendment remedies" to Congress?

I'm thinking there's a lot silliness said, but I wonder. If it's the inherent nature of government is to become more interested in its own power and protecting its bureaucracy, then is the occasional overthrow necessary?

Before I get a knock at the door, this is a philosophical question and not an endorsement.

Consider that we aren't really represented by people acting in our best interest (or at least their perception of it) but by those controlled by political parties who want above things to retain a majority.

It doesn't look to be getting any better. What if our government simply decides that the parties who control it are it's primary purpose?

Voting anyone out is not possible in any realistic scenario.

What then?
 

bfdd

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I'm thinking there's a lot silliness said, but I wonder. If it's the inherent nature of government is to become more interested in its own power and protecting its bureaucracy, then is the occasional overthrow necessary?

Before I get a knock at the door, this is a philosophical question and not an endorsement.

Consider that we aren't really represented by people acting in our best interest (or at least their perception of it) but by those controlled by political parties who want above things to retain a majority.

It doesn't look to be getting any better. What if our government simply decides that the parties who control it are it's primary purpose?

Voting anyone out is not possible in any realistic scenario.

What then?
1. We've already been heading down that path and it should be obvious to most who aren't ideologues.
2. That's why fighting for our "protected rights" is so important.
 

jonks

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When asked if she supported Second Amendment remedies Christine O'Donnell said she didn't understand how not testifying against yourself would help get the country back on track.
 

irishScott

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When asked if she supported Second Amendment remedies Christine O'Donnell said she didn't understand how not testifying against yourself would help get the country back on track.

So long as we're switching parties in the house, might as well get a new Pelosi counterpart for the senate too. At least O'Donnell's hotter.
 
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IGBT

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eco-KOOKS going underground and attacking society because they don't get their retrograde ways is not far fetched.
 

PJABBER

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eco-KOOKS going underground and attacking society because they don't get their retrograde ways is not far fetched.

QFT. The following is an extract from Congressional testimony, the full detailed statement is available in the link reference -

Testimony of James F. Jarboe, Domestic Terrorism Section Chief, Counterterrorism Division, FBI
Before the House Resources Committee, Subcommittee on Forests and Forest Health
February 12, 2002
"The Threat of Eco-Terrorism"


During the past several years, special interest extremism, as characterized by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), has emerged as a serious terrorist threat. Generally, extremist groups engage in much activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. Law enforcement becomes involved when the volatile talk of these groups transgresses into unlawful action. The FBI estimates that the ALF/ELF have committed more than 600 criminal acts in the United States since 1996, resulting in damages in excess of 43 million dollars.
In recent years, the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) has become one of the most active extremist elements in the United States. Despite the destructive aspects of ALF's operations, its operational philosophy discourages acts that harm "any animal, human and nonhuman." Animal rights groups in the United States, including the ALF, have generally adhered to this mandate. The ALF, established in Great Britain in the mid-1970s, is a loosely organized movement committed to ending the abuse and exploitation of animals. The American branch of the ALF began its operations in the late 1970s. Individuals become members of the ALF not by filing paperwork or paying dues, but simply by engaging in "direct action" against companies or individuals who utilize animals for research or economic gain. "Direct action" generally occurs in the form of criminal activity to cause economic loss or to destroy the victims' company operations. The ALF activists have engaged in a steadily growing campaign of illegal activity against fur companies, mink farms, restaurants, and animal research laboratories.

Estimates of damage and destruction in the United States claimed by the ALF during the past ten years, as compiled by national organizations such as the Fur Commission and the National Association for Biomedical Research (NABR), put the fur industry and medical research losses at more than 45 million dollars. The ALF is considered a terrorist group, whose purpose is to bring about social and political change through the use of force and violence.

Disaffected environmentalists, in 1980, formed a radical group called "Earth First!" and engaged in a series of protests and civil disobedience events. In 1984, however, members introduced "tree spiking" (insertion of metal or ceramic spikes in trees in an effort to damage saws) as a tactic to thwart logging. In 1992, the ELF was founded in Brighton, England, by Earth First! members who refused to abandon criminal acts as a tactic when others wished to mainstream Earth First!. In 1993, the ELF was listed for the first time along with the ALF in a communique declaring solidarity in actions between the two groups. This unity continues today with a crossover of leadership and membership. It is not uncommon for the ALF and the ELF to post joint declarations of responsibility for criminal actions on their web-sites. In 1994, founders of the San Francisco branch of Earth First! published in The Earth First! Journal a recommendation that Earth First! mainstream itself in the United States, leaving criminal acts other than unlawful protests to the ELF.

The ELF advocates "monkeywrenching," a euphemism for acts of sabotage and property destruction against industries and other entities perceived to be damaging to the natural environment. "Monkeywrenching" includes tree spiking, arson, sabotage of logging or construction equipment, and other types of property destruction.

Speeches given by Jonathan Paul and Craig Rosebraugh at the 1998 National Animal Rights Conference held at the University of Oregon, promoted the unity of both the ELF and the ALF movements. The ELF posted information on the ALF website until it began its own website in January 2001, and is listed in the same underground activist publications as the ALF.

The most destructive practice of the ALF/ELF is arson. The ALF/ELF members consistently use improvised incendiary devices equipped with crude but effective timing mechanisms. These incendiary devices are often constructed based upon instructions found on the ALF/ELF websites. The ALF/ELF criminal incidents often involve pre-activity surveillance and well-planned operations. Members are believed to engage in significant intelligence gathering against potential targets, including the review of industry/trade publications, photographic/video surveillance of potential targets, and posting details about potential targets on the internet.
 

bunnyfubbles

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http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcon...broden_22tex.ART0.State.Edition1.33278a9.html


Violent overthrow of the government is of course always on the table as a last resort, but only a complete idiot thinks it is a remedy because your side lost an election.

I was going to say that I recall Dems saying the same thing during the Bush years but I think more said things like running to Canada.

I might support a violent overthrow if it meant getting rid of this bunk two-party system.
 

CallMeJoe

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So long as we're switching parties in the house, might as well get a new pelosi counterpart. At least O'Donnell's hotter.
"Hotter than Nancy Pelosi"? My God, your standards are low.

I might, of course, mention that Ms. O'Donnell is running for the Senate, not the House...
 

irishScott

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"Hotter than Nancy Pelosi"? My God, your standards are low.

I might, of course, mention that Ms. O'Donnell is running for the Senate, not the House...

And your sense of humor is non-existent.

And yeah... my bad. Fixed original post. Being an out-of-state student at UD has kinda numbed me to the whole O'Donnell race. :p
 

jonks

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So long as we're switching parties in the house, might as well get a new Pelosi counterpart for the senate too. At least O'Donnell's hotter.

I'm not a big Pelosi fan but I think the false equivalencies being thrown around don't make much sense. In '08 people kept saying Palin had more executive experience than Obama. In the strictest sense, that's true, but she also had more executive experience than McCain, and ultimately, so what? She attended 5 colleges to get a job as a weather girl and has since become the champion of ignorance as a badge of pride, with O'Donnell gladly carrying that banner. Obama had graduated Harvard law with honors and authored two books (which he actually wrote himself!)

Pelosi is pretty annoying but has had a very long and distinguished career. O'Donnell is an anti-science religious nut who thinks homosexuality is curable and doesn't seem to have a very good grasp of the 1st amendment, forget the rest of the constitution. I don't think O'Donnell is worthy of being called Pelosi's "counterpart."

But yes, she's hotter.
 

GuitarDaddy

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I think the GOP found its new messiah, move over Sarah Palin. I bet this guy gives Boehner a boner
 

Dr. Zaus

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Let us be clear; the tea party was from its inception about the overthrow of the US government in favor of a radical individualistic point of view that works only to lead to fascism in the name of freedom.

One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the tea-party will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect-minded overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted forum personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their secret gay bath-houses.
 

spidey07

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I call him a Patriot.

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I recently went on a consulting trip to Texas and got to see their political commercials. I really want to live in that free state. Good people, great state.
 
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trenchfoot

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It sure would be interesting to see him and his horde of McVey wanna-be's try it.

Gee, I wonder how he's gon'na round up the 1st Cav Div, 21st Cav Bde and the 4th Inf Div at Hood and keep those units locked down to get his insurrection off to good start.

What a maroon.
 

irishScott

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I'm not a big Pelosi fan but I think the false equivalencies being thrown around don't make much sense. In '08 people kept saying Palin had more executive experience than Obama. In the strictest sense, that's true, but she also had more executive experience than McCain, and ultimately, so what? She attended 5 colleges to get a job as a weather girl and has since become the champion of ignorance as a badge of pride, with O'Donnell gladly carrying that banner. Obama had graduated Harvard law with honors and authored two books (which he actually wrote himself!)

Pelosi is pretty annoying but has had a very long and distinguished career. O'Donnell is an anti-science religious nut who thinks homosexuality is curable and doesn't seem to have a very good grasp of the 1st amendment, forget the rest of the constitution. I don't think O'Donnell is worthy of being called Pelosi's "counterpart."

But yes, she's hotter.

Lol she's a female John Kerry. I made the comparison because she's a far left botox junkie vs a far right religious kook. Seems fair to me. :p