For some reason I thought that you were talking about octane booster
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May I direct you
here?
Originally posted by: KurskKnyaz
Originally posted by: EricMartello
OK maybe "compound" is not the right term for the final result as it will probably not be a new chemical; it's just a mixture of solvents. The chemicals I am interested in mixing are categorized as AH - either toluene or xylene - and I want to mix one of those with acetone,
Acetone is water soluble and xylene and toluene are not. If you want these two to react somehow (they won't by themselves) then you will need a magnetic stirrer because your two reagents are not miscible. You may end up with what appears to a a homogeneous solution but over time the two will separate into an acetone and toluene/xylene layers.
I hate to tell you but acetone and toluene/xylene are miscible (handy
reference).
Acetone is a polar molecule, it would induce a dipole in the hydrocarbons found in gasoline and actually increase the surface tension and decrease the solubility of aromatics such as xylene and toluene because the induced dipole will counter the vann der val forces that hold aromatics together and keep them at a liquid phase.
While you are correct that acetone is a polar molecule, its surface tension is 25.20 mN/m, xylene?s surface tension is around 29-30 mN/m (depending on the isomer), toluene?s surface tension is 28.40 mN/m.
The only way I can see a performance increase is through a decrease in the vapor pressure of the gasoline. With less gasoline vapor there would be a larger mass of gasoline combusting within the volume of a cylinder, this is just a guess though.
Huh? If the gasoline isn?t in the vapour phase it isn?t going to combust.
As for vapour pressure, xylene and toluenes are both quite a bit lower than gas. Acetone would be somewhat similar depending on the gas in your area. At low concentrations (such as you propose) it shouldn?t be a problem, but at higher concs it may result in poor cold starting.
So with that said, if I can successfully find a mix of one of the AH chemicals + acetone, I just need to find a suitable lubricant that can handle the conditions inside a combustion chamber of a car. Some suggestions have been mineral spirits, ATF and motor oil...but I don't want anything that might mess up my O2 sensors or clog up my catalytic converter...so the jury is still out on that one.
As suggested two-stroke oil is probably your best bet but do some research! The corvette forums recommended MMO (mineral motor oil?).
Wiki - Toluene also poses similar problems as alcohol fuels, as it eats through standard rubber fuel lines and has no lubricating properties as standard gasoline does, which can break down fuel pumps and cause upper cylinder bore wear.
At the proposed concs. the gas should still meet the definitions of standard pump gas and this shouldn't be too much of a worry.
Acetone, xylene, and toluene would mix by themselves in gasoline.
Yup, but with a 1 litre container, a quick shake won't go amiss...
One final problem is storage - if I go all Martha Stuart and whip some of this stuff up, I can't just stash it in an empty soda bottle since it will likely dissolve the plastic. What is a safe container to put this stuff? I was hoping I could use some special "chemical resistant" kind of plastic container that I could keep in the trunk of my car. Would an aluminum bottle work? I don't want to use glass because I don't want something that can shatter.
Sorry, its glass. Some aluminum may ionize into acetone and make its way to your engine.
Xylene is a major component in cellulose thinners (
cellulose thinners), which comes in stainless steel cans.
Storing in aluminium containers isn't mentioned in the MSDS of either xylene, toluene, or acetone. There is data that suggests that acidic acetone/methanol solutions can complex (dissolve aluminium). You could always test the can with a small amount of the mixture.
Glass should also work provided you are careful since if you knock it over you could smash it. Acetone comes in plastic bottles, so if you buy some acetone and use the container you should be OK with xylene/toluene. You could always test the bottle with a little mixture first.
One thing to do would be to store it in a cool place
in the dark. Organic solvents come in amber glass to protect them from the light and prevent the formation of peroxides, if you use a jelly (or jam) jar, it will be clear.
You do not want to form peroxides!
Do not use containers containing copper.