A pipebomb is now considered a WMD...

[LethalWolfe]

... according to the Patriot Act. Also, if you make meth or ""any substance that is designed or has the capability to cause death or serious injury" and contains toxic chemicals" you can be charged w/manufacturing chemical weapons.

Link


Lethal

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
... according to the Patriot Act. Also, if you make meth or ""any substance that is designed or has the capability to cause death or serious injury" and contains toxic chemicals" you can be charged w/manufacturing chemical weapons.

Link


Lethal

yeah i read those.

i was strongly against the patriot act. Now they are tring to get the super patriot act or patriot act 2. sheesh scarry times.

wish i could take my vote for bush away. sigh

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
... according to the Patriot Act. Also, if you make meth or ""any substance that is designed or has the capability to cause death or serious injury" and contains toxic chemicals" you can be charged w/manufacturing chemical weapons.

Link


Lethal

yeah i read those.

i was strongly against the patriot act. Now they are tring to get the super patriot act or patriot act 2. sheesh scarry times.

wish i could take my vote for bush away. sigh

Careful, they might be monitoring these boards. Wouldn't want the men in black to come knockin'.


Lethal

 

[iwearnosox]

Fart and go to jail?

 

[SaigonK]

Yeah lets not have that act and defend your right to make illegal drugs or blow up shopping malls.

 

[ed21x]

I don't understand how you are drawing the correlation between that phrase and a pipebomb. That phrase deals with chemically induced rather than explosives. Does the article mention pipebombs anywhere?

 

[spidey07]

While I see the merit for thinking along the lines of "make bad stuff and we'll put you away."

It is going too far.

 

[iwearnosox]

You're missing the highlight of the patriot act II: It will allow any federal agent to demand records from anyone who interacts with you, with no judicial oversight whatsoever.

I'm moving to Canada.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: ed21x
I don't understand how you are drawing the correlation between that phrase and a pipebomb. That phrase deals with chemically induced rather than explosives. Does the article mention pipebombs anywhere?

From the 3rd paragraph:

"Federal prosecutors used the act in June to file a charge of "terrorism using a weapon of mass destruction" against a California man after a pipe bomb exploded in his lap, wounding him as he sat in his car"


Lethal

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: ed21x
I don't understand how you are drawing the correlation between that phrase and a pipebomb. That phrase deals with chemically induced rather than explosives. Does the article mention pipebombs anywhere?

yeah reading the article is hard. instead just make a response on something you dont know about! yeah!

 

[Mill]

For fvck sakes! If you have a pipebomb I don't want you on the streets anyway! Let them pile charges on. Same with meth manufacturers.

Sheesh.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: Millennium
For fvck sakes! If you have a pipebomb I don't want you on the streets anyway! Let them pile charges on. Same with meth manufacturers.

Sheesh.

i agree that pipe bombs shouldnt be as common as sticks of gum but i dont think they should be labelled weapons of mass destruction. at this rate, bush will be in the clear when it turns out that Iraq really doesn't have anything much more dangerous than the average army arsenal.

 

[wfbberzerker]

defines chemical weapons of mass destruction as "any substance that is designed or has the capability to cause death or serious injury" and contains toxic chemicals.

what about cigarette companies?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe

Originally posted by: ed21x
I don't understand how you are drawing the correlation between that phrase and a pipebomb. That phrase deals with chemically induced rather than explosives. Does the article mention pipebombs anywhere?

From the 3rd paragraph:

"Federal prosecutors used the act in June to file a charge of "terrorism using a weapon of mass destruction" against a California man after a pipe bomb exploded in his lap, wounding him as he sat in his car"


Lethal

that only means what he was charged with... chances are that charge won't be the one the guy is convicted of... no court in the country is going to interpret a pipe bomb as a WMD.

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
You're missing the highlight of the patriot act II: It will allow any federal agent to demand records from anyone who interacts with you, with no judicial oversight whatsoever.

I'm moving to Canada.

See ya.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: LethalWolfe

Originally posted by: ed21x
I don't understand how you are drawing the correlation between that phrase and a pipebomb. That phrase deals with chemically induced rather than explosives. Does the article mention pipebombs anywhere?

From the 3rd paragraph:

"Federal prosecutors used the act in June to file a charge of "terrorism using a weapon of mass destruction" against a California man after a pipe bomb exploded in his lap, wounding him as he sat in his car"


Lethal

that only means what he was charged with... chances are that charge won't be the one the guy is convicted of... no court in the country is going to interpret a pipe bomb as a WMD.

I should hope not. Of course the prosecuter seems to think differently.


Lethal

 

[Pepsei]

Finally, we will find WMD in Iraq.

 

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
Finally, we will find WMD in Iraq.

LOL

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Millennium
For fvck sakes! If you have a pipebomb I don't want you on the streets anyway! Let them pile charges on. Same with meth manufacturers.

Sheesh.

I agree that people accused of pipe bomb or meth making need to be tried, convicted if the evidence warrants, and punished accordingly.

I do not think that someone should be taken away without a judges warrant and made to disappear because the ones who took him SAID he had a pipe bomb. Poof! Gone. No trial. Nothing. Just gone.

Stalin did it, Mao did it, Saddam did it. We shouldn't.

Ashcroft wants the govt to have this power. No.

 

[TerryMathews]

Originally posted by: waggy

yeah i read those.

i was strongly against the patriot act. Now they are tring to get the super patriot act or patriot act 2. sheesh scarry times.

wish i could take my vote for bush away. sigh

Yeah, cuz GWB made this law all on his own, without it being voted on by two seperate houses of Congress, nevermind the fact that it passed by an overwhelming majority and almost all the opposition it had was republican, not democrat.

Funny how that gets overlooked. GWB isn't the only person out to screw you.

 

The Patriot Act rocks. Lock em all up!

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Pepsei
Finally, we will find WMD in Iraq.

 

[XZeroII]

Woohoo! Cigs and Alcohol would become illegal!

 

[PatboyX]

GWB isn't the only person out to screw you.

no, but he does brag about it more than most.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Millennium
For fvck sakes! If you have a pipebomb I don't want you on the streets anyway! Let them pile charges on. Same with meth manufacturers.

Sheesh.

I agree that people accused of pipe bomb or meth making need to be tried, convicted if the evidence warrants, and punished accordingly.

I do not think that someone should be taken away without a judges warrant and made to disappear because the ones who took him SAID he had a pipe bomb. Poof! Gone. No trial. Nothing. Just gone.

Stalin did it, Mao did it, Saddam did it. We shouldn't.

Ashcroft wants the govt to have this power. No.

You are right. There is no reason to suspend the rights and the Criminal Justice process. I am simply saying that prosecutors pile on baseless charges all the time hoping for a plea. No judge or jury is going to convict this guy.