A perfect example of just how and why the War on Drugs is failing...

Amused

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Coke ring allegedly run from U.S. prison
22 arrested in Colombia, New York, California, Florida, New Jersey
From Chris Browne
CNN

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Of the 22 people charged with conspiring to import "massive quantities of narcotics" into the United States, two allegedly were leading the operation from a federal prison in Pennsylvania, according to federal prosecutors.

Jose Escobar Orejuela and Jorge Ignacio Figueroa were "supervising an international narcotics operation from the Federal Correctional Center in Allenwood, Pennsylvania," Robert Nardoza, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in New York's Eastern District, said Wednesday in announcing the charges.

The two are serving sentences for conspiring to import cocaine into the United States.

Attempts to reach their attorneys were unsuccessful.

They and the other defendants were charged with using New York and California seaports as entry points for the drugs. Arrests were made Tuesday and Wednesday in New York, New Jersey, Florida, California and Colombia.

Escobar allegedly enlisted the help of longshoremen to ensure that the "cocaine-laden containers were placed in an easily accessible location and by notifying organization members, if law enforcement was at the port," U.S. Attorney Roslynn R. Mauskopf said.

Photographs of the seized cocaine shipments show that the drugs were labeled with pictures of characters from the popular children's program "Teletubbies."

The photographs were provided to CNN by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, which led the joint U.S.-Colombian sting.

"The government's investigation resulted in the seizure of millions of dollars worth of cocaine and ultimately forced the Escobar-Figueroa organizations to give up the ports of New York as a landing point for their drugs," Mauskopf said.

The law enforcement operation also ended their attempts to import cocaine into California, she added.

The indictments result from a nearly five-year investigation code-named "Operation Pier Pressure."

The operation, launched in December 2000, has resulted in the seizure of more than 1,100 pounds (500 kilograms) of cocaine, all of which was recovered from the Howland Hook Marine Terminal in Staten Island, New York, Nardoza told CNN.

Among the defendants named are retired New York longshoremen Raul Adames and Alejandro Colon of Brooklyn, New York, and four people who had homes in Cali, Colombia.

A request for their extradition to the United States is pending, Nardoza said.

If convicted, each of the 22 defendants faces a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years in prison up to a maximum of life behind bars, and a $4 million fine.

Escobar also is charged with money laundering, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years imprisonment and a $500,000 fine.
 

yllus

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"Yeah I did it. What are you gonna do, throw me in jail?" :p
 

purbeast0

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ok what i want to know is that if he gets life in prison, how the hell are they going to enforce that $4million fine on him? whats going to happen if he doesnt pay it, he's arleady in the worst possible position you can be in.
 

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Photographs of the seized cocaine shipments show that the drugs were labeled with pictures of characters from the popular children's program "Teletubbies."

Damn LaLa! That's some good sh!t!
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
ok what i want to know is that if he gets life in prison, how the hell are they going to enforce that $4million fine on him? whats going to happen if he doesnt pay it, he's arleady in the worst possible position you can be in.

Seizure of estate? Also, if he wasn't in solitary, he wasn't in the worst possible position he could be.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Photographs of the seized cocaine shipments show that the drugs were labeled with pictures of characters from the popular children's program "Teletubbies."

Damn LaLa! That's some good sh!t!

Now we know what Tinky-Winky carries in that purse.
 

K1052

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: K1052
The law enforcement operation also ended their attempts to import cocaine into California, she added

LMAO

That sentence, taken out of context can be read SO wrong. :D

*sniff sniff*

*rubs nose*

That's funny, I always pictured you as a crack ho. :p

You forgot what industry I work in. :p
 

z0mb13

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
If they really were running it, something must be horribly wrong.

I can easily picture it..

the guards getting bribes up the yin yang
 

iamtrout

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The "war" on drugs is chickensh!t. I say shoot on sight, and shoot to kill. Got a bag of coke? You're going down you motherfvcker. Working in a heroin factory? DIE!

I would be willing to destroy entire villages. Not sure where the drug lord is within a twenty mile radius? Carpet bombs.

I am an equal opportunity death machine.
 

Ronstang

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Actually it is more an example of how our prisons are a joke and that inmates have way to many priveleges.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: iamtrout
The "war" on drugs is chickensh!t. I say shoot on sight, and shoot to kill. Got a bag of coke? You're going down you motherfvcker. Working in a heroin factory? DIE!

I would be willing to destroy entire villages. Not sure where the drug lord is within a twenty mile radius? Carpet bombs.

I am an equal opportunity death machine.

Even the most oppressive nations on Earth have a drug problem. The harder you fight it, the more deadly the black market becomes.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Ronstang
Actually it is more an example of how our prisons are a joke and that inmates have way to many priveleges.

Actually, it's an example of how, no matter how hard you try, no matter how oppressive you become, no matter how many freedoms you take away, you'll never eradicate it.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Amused
Photographs of the seized cocaine shipments show that the drugs were labeled with pictures of characters from the popular children's program "Teletubbies."
Oh, like this?:p
 

Nebor

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Looks to me like an example of the War on Drugs winning. They arrested people, right? Seized a bunch of drugs. I'd call it a job well done. :thumbsup:
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Actually it is more an example of how our prisons are a joke and that inmates have way to many priveleges.

Actually, it's an example of how, no matter how hard you try, no matter how oppressive you become, no matter how many freedoms you take away, you'll never eradicate it.
:thumbsup:

We've been doing drugs for tens of thousands of years... we've evolved with them.

I'm curious though, do you feel that legalizing the really hardcore drugs like crank, meth and heroin is the way to go?

It's a touchy subject... But the key to drug use prevention is in the people, not the drugs themselves. It takes education and a healthy mind to prevent drug use. Obviously the way we're going about thigs now doesen't work. It just perpetuates the underground cycle.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Looks to me like an example of the War on Drugs winning. They arrested people, right? Seized a bunch of drugs. I'd call it a job well done. :thumbsup:

Really? In the last 30 years, has is become harder, or easier for the addict to buy drugs?

The reality of it is there has been no change whatsoever. The WoD has done nothing to limit the supply of illegal drugs. All it has done is empowered drug gangs, black markets and organized crime... just like prohibition.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: Ronstang
Actually it is more an example of how our prisons are a joke and that inmates have way to many priveleges.

Actually, it's an example of how, no matter how hard you try, no matter how oppressive you become, no matter how many freedoms you take away, you'll never eradicate it.
:thumbsup:

We've been doing drugs for tens of thousands of years... we've evolved with them.

I'm curious though, do you feel that legalizing the really hardcore drugs like crank, meth and heroin is the way to go?

It's a touchy subject... But the key to drug use prevention is in the people, not the drugs themselves. It takes education and a healthy mind to prevent drug use. Obviously the way we're going about thigs now doesen't work. It just perpetuates the underground cycle.

Ask any non-drug user why they don't use drugs. NONE will say "because it's illegal."

So yes, banning any substance merely drives it underground and creates more crime.