A peek at government run health care.

Hayabusa Rider

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So...
Patient comes in with an Oxycontin RX. Under Medicaid that requires a prior authorization. That means that not only does the prescriber have to call Medicaid but I do as well. Typical duplication of effort. I make the call so I'm not doing anything else for 20 minutes (by using health care providers as free labor they "save" money).

I speak to this guy who is obviously under the gun to get this done to move onto the next call. He tells me to wait 5 minutes ant process it. Nada. 20 minutes later. Nada.

So I spend another 20 minutes on hold because we need to waste more of my time. I'm then told that the prior auth has already been used. WTF, of course it was. I just activated it. Nope, done by another pharmacy (it wasn't). Now the good part. I ask what pharmacy activated it and she said she couldn't tell me. BS. I asked if she can't or won't. She says she's not allowed to give that information out. Well they did and private insurance companies still do. Its perfectly legal. HIPPA doesn't apply with either providing services or billing. We used to catch a lot of drug abusers this way, but my guess is that they complained because they were getting arrested.
So were at a stalemate. I can't fill her prescription and no one else can. She's in chronic pain and there's a good chance that before Tuesday or so before this gets fixed she'll wind up in the ER from withdrawal.

No they won't help when its needed but think of the cost savings!
 

JSt0rm

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my ex is a neurologist and I'm sure she would just have some pleb sit on the phone waiting for this. Did you get paid to do this job or jibber jabber on anandtech?
 

theeedude

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Which is what? That government run health care is not perfect? Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
 

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
my ex is a neurologist and I'm sure she would just have some pleb sit on the phone waiting for this. Did you get paid to do this job or jibber jabber on anandtech?

Do you get paid to be obtuse or is it a natural gift?
 

JSt0rm

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its natural. are you at work right now? I am more concerned about that kind of waist then making sure an addictive drug gets into the right hands and not into the wrong ones.
 

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Which is what? That government run health care is not perfect? Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

This doesn't happen with private insurance. PM your telephone # to me and I'll have her call you if she goes into withdrawal so you can tell her just how lucky she is.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
its natural. are you at work right now? I am more concerned about that kind of waist then making sure an addictive drug gets into the right hands and not into the wrong ones.

I'm on my meal break. I can see why she was your ex.
 

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
its natural. are you at work right now? I am more concerned about that kind of waist then making sure an addictive drug gets into the right hands and not into the wrong ones.

I'm on my meal break. I can see why she was your ex.

A typical leftist response by jstorm. Instead of discuss the issue and as a leftist perhaps propose how the sytsem could be better, instead we see the ad hominem attack on the messenger.

Private insurance would also have problems. However, government should be our backstop to abuse by health care companies. Not the one providing our health care. If that happens (government run helath care), we have no recourse and we end up with the all to common situation described by the OP with NO recourse.
 

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FEAR FEAR! Much better to get denied insurance, pre=existing conditions, or for the insurance to refuse treatment!
 

theeedude

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: senseamp
Which is what? That government run health care is not perfect? Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

This doesn't happen with private insurance. PM your telephone # to me and I'll have her call you if she goes into withdrawal so you can tell her just how lucky she is.

People on Medicaid cannot afford private insurance, so the point is moot. Also, I do want government approvals to pay for Oxycontins, because god forbid some junkie abuses the system, conservatives are going to cry foul that there aren't procedures in place to prevent them.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I'm on my meal break. I can see why she was your ex.

:lips:

She?

He? It? Fleshlight?

Why would my sexual orientation matter either way? nice attack though : this typical "leftist" attacks the messenger and neocon fascist attack sexual orientation. You guys are good. really.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I'm on my meal break. I can see why she was your ex.

:lips:

She?

He? It? Fleshlight?

Why would my sexual orientation matter either way? nice attack though : this typical "leftist" attacks the messenger and neocon fascist attack sexual orientation. You guys are good. really.

What sexual orientation is a fleshlight? I have the same concern about who you boff as apparently you have with this womans situation, that is none.

Sensamp it would be fine if prior authorization were something involving abuse. Its not. The MD doent have to provide any information that would not be submitted by me and its always approved. If we had something funny in the system appear we could make sure we were not aiding an addict or dealer. Medicaid has thrown a wrench into our ability to do this.

This is one of the oldest and largest government health care programs at 320 billion a year. This is commonplace. I point this out because this is a typical case.

Why would something far larger be better when after decades they still can't get this right?
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
I'm on my meal break. I can see why she was your ex.

:lips:

She?

He? It? Fleshlight?

Why would my sexual orientation matter either way? nice attack though : this typical "leftist" attacks the messenger and neocon fascist attack sexual orientation. You guys are good. really.

Not an attack, I thought you were a female because the way you have acted.
 

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Since the OP seems to enjoy sharing anecdotes, here's a peek at privately run health care.

Oh, I like this game? Can I play?



Here is a peak at Government run healthcare
Absolutely. We can go back and forth with anecdotal evidence for weeks.

Unfortunately for you and the OP (and fortunately for me), the people who control the legislative and executive branches of our government do not share your viewpoint.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Since the OP seems to enjoy sharing anecdotes, here's a peek at privately run health care.

Oh, I like this game? Can I play?



Here is a peak at Government run healthcare
Absolutely. We can go back and forth with anecdotal evidence for weeks.

Unfortunately for you and the OP (and fortunately for me), the people who control the legislative and executive branches of our government do not share your viewpoint.

Unfortunately for this woman too. Unfortunately for a great many the government you adore doesn't care much as to how a thing functions as long as they have the control.

Unfortunately for most everyone there are a great many who support the formers attitude and that's the unfortunate thing. You'll defend whatever we're told we'll get as much as the neocons supported Iraq. NeoLibs. A fair title.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: jpeyton


Unfortunately for you and the OP (and fortunately for me), the people who control the legislative and executive branches of our government do not share your viewpoint.

I wouldnt get too excited yet, they havent figured out how to pay for it.



If something resembling this giant pork bill passes, and America slips further financially, goodbye majority in congress. Obama is already starting to drop in the polls with his reckless spending.

http://www.boston.com/news/nat...lions_for_parks_paths/