A one sentence flip flop.

imported_tss4

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wonder if he meant:

"The truth, which is what elections are all about, is that the tax burden of the middle class has gone up while the tax burden of the upper class has gone down."

wonder if he mispoke or the article was wrong. I think I'd prefer that he mispoke. That would make the next 4 years far more interesting. :)
 
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Originally posted by: tss4
wonder if he meant:

"The truth, which is what elections are all about, is that the tax burden of the middle class has gone up while the tax burden of the upper class has gone down."

wonder if he mispoke or the article was wrong. I think I'd prefer that he mispoke. That would make the next 4 years far more interesting. :)

I'd be inclined to think it was the latter, since the article doesn't comment on it at all. From what I've seen, Sen Kerry talks like a lawyer, which doesn't endear him to everyone, but he doesn't tend to make malapropisms like this.
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: conjur
Like that's not a typo?


:roll:

Its sad to witness the failure of our education system so blatently paraded for all to see. I almost feel a sense of shame.

Conjur, a "typo" is a mechanical error (usually in the form of striking an incorrect key on a keyboard) that usually results in an unintended spelling error.

Unless you have another transcript of the interview, your assumption of a "typo" is, of course, baseless and without merit.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: conjur
Like that's not a typo?


:roll:

Its sad to witness the failure of our education system so blatently paraded for all to see. I almost feel a sense of shame.

Conjur, a "typo" is a mechanical error (usually in the form of striking an incorrect key on a keyboard) that usually results in an unintended spelling error.

Unless you have another transcript of the interview, your assumption of a "typo" is, of course, baseless and without merit.

Good call - if anything there's intent here:p

Too bad conjur was willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the paper.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: conjur
Like that's not a typo?


:roll:

Its sad to witness the failure of our education system so blatently paraded for all to see. I almost feel a sense of shame.

Conjur, a "typo" is a mechanical error (usually in the form of striking an incorrect key on a keyboard) that usually results in an unintended spelling error.

Unless you have another transcript of the interview, your assumption of a "typo" is, of course, baseless and without merit.

Typos also involve the mind thinking of one word but the fingers typing another word in its place. Rather common occurrence.


The only thing baseless and without merit is your entire stance of supporting Bush.
 
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Originally posted by: Corn

Its sad to witness the failure of our education system so blatently paraded for all to see. I almost feel a sense of shame.

Conjur, a "typo" is a mechanical error (usually in the form of striking an incorrect key on a keyboard) that usually results in an unintended spelling error.

Unless you have another transcript of the interview, your assumption of a "typo" is, of course, baseless and without merit.

Okay, since you've offered yourself up as an expert on the written word, allow me to observe the following, Your Highness:

It's "it's," not "its."

It's "blatantly," not "blatently."

Physician, heal thyself! Unlike you, however, I feel no "sense of shame" for your editorial sloppiness. ;)

I'll further observe that, unless you have a transcript of the speech in question (it wasn't an interview, as you incorrectly observed), you too are making an assumption about what was said that may or may not be justified. As I said above, I'm inclined to assume this was a scrivener's error rather than a spoken misstep by Sen Kerry, since the article makes no comment on it.
 

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: conjur
Like that's not a typo?


:roll:

Its sad to witness the failure of our education system so blatently paraded for all to see. I almost feel a sense of shame.

Conjur, a "typo" is a mechanical error (usually in the form of striking an incorrect key on a keyboard) that usually results in an unintended spelling error.

Unless you have another transcript of the interview, your assumption of a "typo" is, of course, baseless and without merit.


I'm assuming you were there personally to witness exactly what came out of Mr. Kerry's mouth then?
 

Corn

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Typos also involve the mind thinking of one word but the fingers typing another word in its place. Rather common occurrence.

No, they don't. Well.....I suppose, obviously, that's what you think constitues a typo........

The only thing baseless and without merit is your entire stance of supporting Bush.

Interesting......my support of Bush over Kerry has relevance to my point of view regarding certain issues. Your opinion of my support is, most likely, formed in ignorance and prejudice.


Oh yeah, look for your sense of humor......I think you lost it when you became a.........what's that term you do so love to describe your political opponents again? That's right......Kerry-God fanboi.
 

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Yes, we might have Kerry to kick around for 4 years. :)

But, he's nowhere as bad as Bush. Bush is in a league of his own. I wonder how many of his brain cells are actually firing?
:)
-Robert
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Corn
Typos also involve the mind thinking of one word but the fingers typing another word in its place. Rather common occurrence.

No, they don't. Well.....I suppose, obviously, that's what you think constitues a typo........

The only thing baseless and without merit is your entire stance of supporting Bush.

Interesting......my support of Bush over Kerry has relevance to my point of view regarding certain issues. Your opinion of my support is, most likely, formed in ignorance and prejudice.


Oh yeah, look for your sense of humor......I think you lost it when you became a.........what's that term you do so love to describe your political opponents again? That's right......Kerry-God fanboi.

You wouldn't know good humor if it came on a stick, delivered by a truck.
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Corn

Its sad to witness the failure of our education system so blatently paraded for all to see. I almost feel a sense of shame.

Conjur, a "typo" is a mechanical error (usually in the form of striking an incorrect key on a keyboard) that usually results in an unintended spelling error.

Unless you have another transcript of the interview, your assumption of a "typo" is, of course, baseless and without merit.

Okay, since you've offered yourself up as an expert on the written word, allow me to observe the following, Your Highness:

It's "it's," not "its."

It's "blatantly," not "blatently."

Physician, heal thyself! Unlike you, however, I feel no "sense of shame" for your editorial sloppiness. ;)

I'll further observe that, unless you have a transcript of the speech in question (it wasn't an interview, as you incorrectly observed), you too are making an assumption about what was said that may or may not be justified. As I said above, I'm inclined to assume this was a scrivener's error rather than a spoken misstep by Sen Kerry, since the article makes no comment on it.


Thank you for pointing out several grammatical and/or spelling errors on my part. As usual, I will endeavour to learn from my mistakes and graciously accept your criticism without complaint, Don.

I don't have a transcript of the speech. Instead I only have the quote from the article in linked above. I see that you are ever the clairvoyant, Don. It must really assist you in your lawyering duties, don't it?
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I don't know who made the gaff, and neither do I care. It's pretty funny :D

Obviously you are not a Kerry-God fanboi, Winston. ;)
 
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Originally posted by: Corn

I don't have a transcript of the speech. Instead I only have the quote from the article in linked above. I see that you are ever the clairvoyant, Don. It must really assist you in your lawyering duties, don't it?

Uh, yes, it do. :) In all seriousness, again, in the context of this quote, I think the likelier explanation is that the stringer who wrote the story made an editorial error (one that I, for the record, would call a typo). I am no psychic, but when you put the sentence in its context in the article, that seems to me like the likeliest explanation.

A larger issue, of course, is whether, even if Sen Kerry had said this, it would warrant an entire thread. With all due respect to President Bush, he has made so many malapropisms, and assembled so many fractured phrases, that they fill entire books, and page-a-day calendars. I imagine you feel it's mean-spirited to dwell excessively on these, and I'd basically agree (just as I feel, for that matter, it was mean-spirited of you to attack conjur for his use of the word "typo"). The fact of the matter is that politicians at the level of President Bush and Sen Kerry have people literally hanging on their every word, so any misstep will be documented ad infinitum.

With that in mind, why was this thread created? I can't imagine you're seriously arguing this was a "flip-flop," are you? Even if you're not "clairvoyant," surely you don't think that, if Sen Kerry said this, it was anything other than him misspeaking, right?
 

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Originally posted by: Corn
Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I don't know who made the gaff, and neither do I care. It's pretty funny :D

Obviously you are not a Kerry-God fanboi, Winston. ;)

Not really. I have made the same mistakes myself, and I find them just as funny.

If Kerry or Bush falls on their ass, I'm gonna chuckle. If Nader does, I am really gonna guffaw :p
 

Corn

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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: Corn

I don't have a transcript of the speech. Instead I only have the quote from the article in linked above. I see that you are ever the clairvoyant, Don. It must really assist you in your lawyering duties, don't it?

Uh, yes, it do. :) In all seriousness, again, in the context of this quote, I think the likelier explanation is that the stringer who wrote the story made an editorial error (one that I, for the record, would call a typo). I am no psychic, but when you put the sentence in its context in the article, that seems to me like the likeliest explanation.

A larger issue, of course, is whether, even if Sen Kerry had said this, it would warrant an entire thread. With all due respect to President Bush, he has made so many malapropisms, and assembled so many fractured phrases, that they fill entire books, and page-a-day calendars. I imagine you feel it's mean-spirited to dwell excessively on these, and I'd basically agree (just as I feel, for that matter, it was mean-spirited of you to attack conjur for his use of the word "typo"). The fact of the matter is that politicians at the level of President Bush and Sen Kerry have people literally hanging on their every word, so any misstep will be documented ad infinitum.

With that in mind, why was this thread created? I can't imagine you're seriously arguing this was a "flip-flop," are you? Even if you're not "clairvoyant," surely you don't think that, if Sen Kerry said this, it was anything other than him misspeaking, right?


I merely thought it humorous DV: The supposed king of flip flops, supposedly flip flopping in a single sentence. Maybe not quite as humorous as the portrait of Ashcroft (crafted entirely using pornographic photographs) I linked to yesterday in another (hastily locked) thread.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Any alternate transcript or quote yet?

It's quite funny either way though...

CkG

Maybe Kerry is just as confused about the new OT laws as the rest of us?

Edit - I'm aware OT != tax burden, it's just the most recent law that's gone in which does something and it isn't what it said it would do... but no one is quite sure what it really does do!