A Month Before College Ends, Reality Is Settling In...

Kenji4861

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So I'm a month away from graduating college and no responses from companies in my area. I was born in the silicon valley and would like to stay here.. but it seems like I need to really consider moving anywhere to get a job in my field. =( Hate to leave my family/gf/area that I grew up in.

How is the job market in the silicon valley, does it look like it's going to be better anytime soon? Is it continuing to go down?
 

TommyVercetti

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I was done 2 weeks ago too. I would hate to move too, but I guess there is nothing in this small town.
 

wyvrn

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If the job market never picks up, debt is a moot point. He will default on all of it. The economy will pick up, and having an advanced degree when it does would be a plus.

Originally posted by: SammySon
masters degree
Come out further in debt, and still no jobs.
;)

 

StageLeft

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Yep reality will hit most college students at the moment. There are no jobs in silicon valley. Moving is a fact of life and the sooner you get it out of your system the better off you'll be.

The only ways around it are:

1) You get lucky enough to find a good job locally (I don't mean selling ram at best buy).
or
2) You settle for a piece of crap job and become comfortable with a meaningless existence because you think a crappy job with no future is better than moving. It's not. Don't be like my best friend from childhood who is now my age with the same education as me and working at Futureshop (Canada's bestbuy) and no hope of ever leaving. Christ what a loser he's become. But he's done it to himself.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yep reality will hit most college students at the moment. There are no jobs in silicon valley. Moving is a fact of life and the sooner you get it out of your system the better off you'll be.

The only ways around it are:

1) You get lucky enough to find a good job locally (I don't mean selling ram at best buy).
or
2) You settle for a piece of crap job and become comfortable with a meaningless existence because you think a crappy job with no future is better than moving. It's not. Don't be like my best friend from childhood who is now my age with the same education as me and working at Futureshop (Canada's bestbuy) and no hope of ever leaving. Christ what a loser he's become. But he's done it to himself.

Does he like what he's doing?
 

DaveSimmons

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FYI Seattle is not the place to move to -- unemployment here is above the national average, VC funding for startups is almost nonexistent, and many of the biotechs are running on fumes.
 

JEDI

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yep reality will hit most college students at the moment. There are no jobs in silicon valley. Moving is a fact of life and the sooner you get it out of your system the better off you'll be.

The only ways around it are:

1) You get lucky enough to find a good job locally (I don't mean selling ram at best buy).
or
2) You settle for a piece of crap job and become comfortable with a meaningless existence because you think a crappy job with no future is better than moving. It's not. Don't be like my best friend from childhood who is now my age with the same education as me and working at Futureshop (Canada's bestbuy) and no hope of ever leaving. Christ what a loser he's become. But he's done it to himself.

yeah, when u get comfortable you wont leave because even a bad situation is better than the unknown (in this case, finding a new job and starting from ground zero in the pecking order)
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yep reality will hit most college students at the moment. There are no jobs in silicon valley. Moving is a fact of life and the sooner you get it out of your system the better off you'll be.

The only ways around it are:

1) You get lucky enough to find a good job locally (I don't mean selling ram at best buy).
or
2) You settle for a piece of crap job and become comfortable with a meaningless existence because you think a crappy job with no future is better than moving. It's not. Don't be like my best friend from childhood who is now my age with the same education as me and working at Futureshop (Canada's bestbuy) and no hope of ever leaving. Christ what a loser he's become. But he's done it to himself.

Does he like what he's doing?
Most definitely not. I know it seems callous to say it but if I was in his position I'm not sure how long I could keep getting up in the morning without going to the basement and loading my dad's rifle.

He's 26 next month and lives with his parents again. We both started university in 95. He finished in 2000 and went to an IT school like I did. I got out a year earlier (I didn't spend an extra year on my degree), and he's got debt and wants an IT job but he's been officially looking now for 22 months without a hope in sight. I email him and he still says things like "I Just got my A+ so I'm going to look for a full time job now.". I told him 2 years ago: get the fvck out of halifax, nova scotia. But he wanted to stick it out. I said move to Ontario and live with your family and get a job there. But he wanted to stick it out and see if he could make it in Halifax. Well he couldn't. He works part time at futureshop, lives with his parents, has no friends, and is most definitely rambling through life.

15 months ago I spoke to him and he was psyched about joining the military as an officer. I supported that idea (best case for him at that point), but then he realized he'd have to commit to 5 years so he said no. Yet another bad move on his part. He's afraid to break out of his shell and it's quickly costing him his life. His job prospects are nonexistent and his education is essentially unusable at this point. Perhaps somebody reading the above will find some use out of it, but the moral is: If in doubt seek the unknown and don't carry on doing what's comfortable, wishing you had the guts to do something else.
 

Kenji4861

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yep reality will hit most college students at the moment. There are no jobs in silicon valley. Moving is a fact of life and the sooner you get it out of your system the better off you'll be.

The only ways around it are:

1) You get lucky enough to find a good job locally (I don't mean selling ram at best buy).
or
2) You settle for a piece of crap job and become comfortable with a meaningless existence because you think a crappy job with no future is better than moving. It's not. Don't be like my best friend from childhood who is now my age with the same education as me and working at Futureshop (Canada's bestbuy) and no hope of ever leaving. Christ what a loser he's become. But he's done it to himself.

Yea, that helped a lot. Wasting my time getting no where at some crappy job around this area will not happen. I'm going to start applying anywhere now.
 

RossMAN

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Originally posted by: Kenji4861
Originally posted by: RossMAN
What's going to happen to Spoofee.com?

Hi Rossman, you know me, I'm going to be looking up deals everyday anyways, so Spoofee.com will never die.

Good, glad to hear it and it helps make some easy $$$ on the side ;)
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yep reality will hit most college students at the moment. There are no jobs in silicon valley. Moving is a fact of life and the sooner you get it out of your system the better off you'll be.

The only ways around it are:

1) You get lucky enough to find a good job locally (I don't mean selling ram at best buy).
or
2) You settle for a piece of crap job and become comfortable with a meaningless existence because you think a crappy job with no future is better than moving. It's not. Don't be like my best friend from childhood who is now my age with the same education as me and working at Futureshop (Canada's bestbuy) and no hope of ever leaving. Christ what a loser he's become. But he's done it to himself.

Does he like what he's doing?
Most definitely not. I know it seems callous to say it but if I was in his position I'm not sure how long I could keep getting up in the morning without going to the basement and loading my dad's rifle.

He's 26 next month and lives with his parents again. We both started university in 95. He finished in 2000 and went to an IT school like I did. I got out a year earlier (I didn't spend an extra year on my degree), and he's got debt and wants an IT job but he's been officially looking now for 22 months without a hope in sight. I email him and he still says things like "I Just got my A+ so I'm going to look for a full time job now.". I told him 2 years ago: get the fvck out of halifax, nova scotia. But he wanted to stick it out. I said move to Ontario and live with your family and get a job there. But he wanted to stick it out and see if he could make it in Halifax. Well he couldn't. He works part time at futureshop, lives with his parents, has no friends, and is most definitely rambling through life.

15 months ago I spoke to him and he was psyched about joining the military as an officer. I supported that idea (best case for him at that point), but then he realized he'd have to commit to 5 years so he said no. Yet another bad move on his part. He's afraid to break out of his shell and it's quickly costing him his life. His job prospects are nonexistent and his education is essentially unusable at this point. Perhaps somebody reading the above will find some use out of it, but the moral is: If in doubt seek the unknown and don't carry on doing what's comfortable, wishing you had the guts to do something else.

Fair enough, I just didn't like the attitude that if you decide to live in a small town with a modest income you are automatically a loser. Some people like that life.
 

fizmeister

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Maybe having gone to Stanford and not UCSC would have helped ;)...

It's the real world. It's not like college where you can chose to go near home; options are more restricted in the real world, and it's a fact of life that you may have to make some sacrifices.