A monitor(video) question

[wmn]

My first computer build and I have a question re: graphic cards. The MB is a shuttle AK39N, ATX ..Athlon XP 2800+, increased PS to 500w as recommended by computer forum.
Audio is composite w/MB, video is not. I have attempted 2 different inexpensive AGP boards and they do not fit the AGP slot properly and shut power to board down. I DO NOT use computer for games, only read newspapers and email. I intend to try a PCI video board, an inexpensive one. Will any PCI board allow me to have 15 pin monitor(crt) use?
How can one even install OS or drivers without monitor use?

TIA, Bill

 

[dderolph]

15 pin is the standard pin configuration, right? I have a PCI card in my system for my second monitor. My monitor connector actually has 12 pins (space for 15 but 3 pin spaces are empty - this varies by make/model of monitor). The card connector has the 15 pin configuration; surely, this is standard.

Regarding your question, "How can one even install OS or drivers without monitor use?", you may need to access your CMOS Setup and change a setting in your BIOS to designate PCI as the initial/primary display device.

 

[wmn]

If I have no connection(cable) from MB to monitor, I can't access CMOS either, correct? My MB has no connector for a monitor unless I install a graphics card.

 

[wmn]

My assuption when I purchased MB that all MBs have on board graphics..not so.

 

[dderolph]

Well, my best guess is that you could install a PCI card, connect your monitor, bootup, and your system will recognize that no AGP card is present, will detect the PCI card, and will give you video display, although may be poor quality until you install drivers. But, at least you'll be able to access your BIOS and see it on screen.

Do you have documentation on your motherboard? If not, I suggest you visit the manufacturer's website and search for info.

Hopefully, someone familiar with your motherboard will read your post and can give you an answer based on actual experience with that motherboard.

I'm also wondering why neither of those AGP cards worked for you. That doesn't make sense. What make/model were those cards?

 

[dderolph]

Originally posted by: wmn
My assuption when I purchased MB that all MBs have on board graphics..not so.

So, now you know. But, you do have a manual that came with the motherboard, don't you? It should have info pertaining to BIOS settings relating to the type of video card you install.

 

[wmn]

First video AGP board was 3Dlabs Permedia 2, has a reverse key fit. I borrowed it from my PII system. Impossible to even attempt to fit.
Second AGP was new ATI Rage Mobility-M 8MB. Key OK, but cannot fully seat because of a factory stop on female board slot. Also shuts down board power when tried seated as far as can go. My suspiscion is bad AGP slot. Since graphics are not a prime requirement, that's why I inquired about using cheap PCI card.
If I will be required to purchase $75-$100 video card to complete this system , I will take my losses now and forgo further pursuit.
I do have choices re: video in BIOS, however without a way to view a monitor I cannot configure BIOS.

I only live a mile from two Shuttle facilities but Shuttle appears to prefer only assistance to those that purchase a barebones system from them. Not worth the hassle to me.

Thanks for your time and efforts.

 

[dderolph]

You can find plenty of PCI video cards for less than $50. Just visit newegg.com or TigerDirect.com or some other online sellers. And, keep ebay in mind.

You repeated the point that "without a way to view a monitor I cannot configure BIOS." And I'll repeat what I said. I think this depends on the make/model of motherboard. You may be able to install a PCI, bootup, and your system will automatically recognize that you don't have an AGP card installed, and then default to the PCI card.