A modest proposal: A way to please both mosque and anti-mosque crowds.

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waggy

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hmm the building could be called. bullets, beer, and bacon!

oh man more i think of it the better it sounds.
 

Carmen813

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...(Heck, you could put a Victim of Christian Atrocities next door too but there wouldn't be as much good material.)
....

The following post is cheek in tongue.

There wouldn't be as much good material? For god's sake, Christians ATE PEOPLE during the crusades....
 

Martin

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Using the OPs logic, every Holocaust Museum already is.

You have to remember though, despite the fact that Hitler was a devout Christian, despite the fact that he considered being Christian a core part of being a good Aryan, despite the fact that he was cozy with the Church, despite the fact that he jailed and killed atheists and other dissidents, despite all that, (brace yourself as we make the inevitable magical-logical leap here), Nazism was an "atheist" ideology and thus the holocaust museum would be not be a christian-violence museum.

And if you disagree, then you're a traitorous Commie Nazi.
 

Atreus21

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You have to remember though, despite the fact that Hitler was a devout Christian, despite the fact that he considered being Christian a core part of being a good Aryan, despite the fact that he was cozy with the Church, despite the fact that he jailed and killed atheists and other dissidents, despite all that, (brace yourself as we make the inevitable magical-logical leap here), Nazism was an "atheist" ideology and thus the holocaust museum would be not be a christian-violence museum.

And if you disagree, then you're a traitorous Commie Nazi.

I think I'll call bullshit on that one.

The attitude of the Nazi party to the Church ranged from tolerance to near total renunciation.[5] Many Nazis were anti-clerical in both private and public life.[6] The Nazi party had decidedly pagan elements.[7]

One position is that the Church and fascism could never have a lasting connection because both are a "holistic Weltanschauung" claiming the whole of the person.[5]

Although both Hitler and Mussolini were anticlerical, they both understood that it would be rash to begin their Kulturkampfs prematurely, such a clash, possibly inevitable in the future, being put off while they dealt with other enemies.[8]

John Cornwell asserts that Hitler was continually preoccupied by "the fact that German Catholics, politically united by the Center Party, had defeated Bismarck's Kulturkampf -- the "culture struggle" against the Catholic Church in the 1870s". According to Cornwell, Hitler was convinced that his movement could succeed only if political Catholicism and its democratic networks were eliminated.[3] As evidence that Hitler was justified in fearing the Catholic Church, Cornwell reports that...

Into the early 1930s the German Center Party, the German Catholic bishops, and the Catholic media had been mainly solid in their rejection of National Socialism. They denied Nazis the sacraments and church burials, and Catholic journalists excoriated National Socialism daily in Germany's 400 Catholic newspapers. The hierarchy instructed priests to combat National Socialism at a local level whenever it attacked Christianity.[3]
 
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sandorski

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You have to remember though, despite the fact that Hitler was a devout Christian, despite the fact that he considered being Christian a core part of being a good Aryan, despite the fact that he was cozy with the Church, despite the fact that he jailed and killed atheists and other dissidents, despite all that, (brace yourself as we make the inevitable magical-logical leap here), Nazism was an "atheist" ideology and thus the holocaust museum would be not be a christian-violence museum.

And if you disagree, then you're a traitorous Commie Nazi.

Hehe, indeed.
 

HumblePie

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Meh, just build a tannery or slaughterhouse nearby. The stench would drive most people away. Or a place where they castrate pigs. The noise alone will drive people away. Also put a restaurant nearby where all they do is serve pork. They have to make and cook lots of bacon and allow the smell to drift everywhere.

There are other ways to legally protest with some imagination if you don't like the idea of a mosque being there.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Meh, just build a tannery or slaughterhouse nearby. The stench would drive most people away. Or a place where they castrate pigs. The noise alone will drive people away. Also put a restaurant nearby where all they do is serve pork. They have to make and cook lots of bacon and allow the smell to drift everywhere.

There are other ways to legally protest with some imagination if you don't like the idea of a mosque being there.

Only the Restaurant has a hope in hell of ever getting the Zoning.
 

child of wonder

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Aug 31, 2006
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LMFAO at people who don't give a rat's ass about an Islamic community center being built as "Islamic apologists."

As an atheist who believes ALL religions are nonsensical fairy tales, I must say this is a first.
 

BurnItDwn

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Oct 10, 1999
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LMFAO at people who don't give a rat's ass about an Islamic community center being built as "Islamic apologists."

As an atheist who believes ALL religions are nonsensical fairy tales, I must say this is a first.
I'm with you here ...

Build the damn mosque/community center, and build the museum... Since we tolerate construction of churches, synagogues, and temples I see no reason why a mosque would be treated any differently. Pretty much the same thing, for people that believe 90% the same shit. But, it's that 10% that get everybody all riled up.
 

xj0hnx

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The very act of you calling everyone who is not appalled by this community center "Islam apologists" just screams of your ignorance and denial of the actual issue.

Funny, the same thing was said about you that called everyone that was appalled by it a bigot ...ignorance, and denial? lol
 

nobodyknows

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I was in Amsterdam a few days ago and went to see the Torture Museum. It is full of all sorts of instruments Christians (Spanish, Dutch, Medieval, Renaissance, etc) used on heretics, witches, blasphemers etc, so I can tell you with certainty that there is more than enough good material for such a museum.

So build both museums right next to Ground Zero. it would be a good location for them and reminder to people of what people do to people in the name of religion.
 

Craig234

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I actually hope someone DOES something like this beyond posting on the Internet. Not because I like the building, but because I think the contrast between what Infohawk wants and what the Muslim community center will be should end up being...illuminating.

The problem is, it's king of like saying 'I hope they DO nominate Sarah Palin and expose how bad they are'.

The people who should learn a lesson, don't, she's more famous now. And the people who backed this building would probably just keep thinking it's great.
 

manimal

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Hmmm... so you're mad at the anti-mosque people criticizing the people putting mosque near ground zero, but you don't have a problem with people criticizing the proposed Muslim Horror Museum? Sounds like a double-standard.

And speaking of guns, the only ones needed would be to fend off the muslims who kill anyone for insulting Islam.

PS Yay it's the you must be a bigot unless you accept other people's superstition argument! Drink!

No double standard here, I disagree with your failed ignorant logic but I do think you have every right to state it. What it does though is marginalize your word and reputation and gives others the right to have opinions on your failed ignorant logic...

When it comes to guns most rational people fear the home grown extremists here using them than any outside force....

Lets play a little game. Take all of your posts and replace islam with any other ethnic race, minority or group. For example lets change the word islam in your posts to say The Cub Scouts of america...

How do you sound now?
 

trenchfoot

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Killing others in the name of God.....yeah, that makes sense. Hating others in the name of God....that too.

My God is better than your God....Oh yeah, now that really makes sense.

My God is the only true God and all others are created by Satan and thus all others are Satan worshippers.....OK!

9/11 happened because my God ordered me to kill in his name....YES! 9/11 was the result of God wanting to punish the sinners who perpetrated unholy crimes against Him....So true!

Building a mosque "so close" to hallowed ground has everything to do religion and NOTHING to do with fulfilling ideological/personal/hidden agenda's...Abso-frick'in-lutely! Opposing a mosque being built "so close" to hallowed ground has nothing to do with the upcoming elections....AMEN! LOL