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A Mission Imperiled

BOBDN

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From today's NY Times Op-Ed page


"A Mission Imperiled

Terrorists aim not just at inflicting death and devastation. They also hope to poison the emotional and political climate around their targets. Tragically, the truck bombers who blew up the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad yesterday have already succeeded on the first score, killing the chief U.N. representative in Iraq and at least 16 others, and disrupting desperately needed international relief efforts. They must not be allowed the second triumph, further deepening the psychological chasm between reconstruction efforts and Iraqi civilians.

The Bush administration has to commit sufficient additional resources, and, if necessary, additional troops, to prevent that. Iraqis need to see that Washington has the will and the means to get their country back on its feet. American soldiers cannot be left fearing so much for their own safety that they start treating all Iraqis as potential enemies. And international relief agencies must not be frightened away from what is now the most important American foreign policy endeavor.

Yesterday's attack, the worst in U.N. history, was another sign that surly, chaotic postwar Iraq is becoming a magnet for terrorists. That is yet another consequence of the Iraq war that the Bush administration failed to anticipate, like the uncontrolled postwar looting, the delays in restoring water and electricity, the ambushes of American soldiers and the sabotage of infrastructure.

The upsurge of terrorism, which began earlier this month with the deadly bombing of Jordan's embassy in Baghdad, is all the more alarming because the list of potential targets seems almost limitless. As things now stand, any public building not fully surrounded by a fortified, patrolled concrete perimeter appears vulnerable.

So far, the identity of the terrorists, the resources available to them and their geographic reach all remain unknown. These attacks appear to reflect more than spontaneous local discontent or the rear-guard efforts of fugitive former Baathist officials. There have been reports of radical Islamists infiltrating into Iraq from Iran and Saudi Arabia.

What seems clear is that those carrying out the attacks are organized and seek to thwart relief and recovery efforts. They seem intent on fanning hostility to American occupation authorities by prolonging the misery of ordinary Iraqis. Targeting the U.N. is especially chilling because it conveys a message to international organizations that they are not safe. Washington cannot let this message sink in.

To prevent that, the administration will have to radically rethink its approach to postwar Iraq. Unrealistically optimistic assumptions have led the White House to severely underestimate troop and spending requirements and wrongly dismiss the need for more international help through the U.N.

More must be done to reestablish security for Iraqis, aid workers and American troops, without creating a bunker mentality that walls foreigners off from the Iraqi population. Washington needs to accelerate its efforts to restore vital services and normal economic life. The administration should also drop its ideological resistance to a larger U.N. role in Iraq ? and prevail on the U.N. to maintain its presence, despite the terrible bloodshed."


What the hell has Bush gotten us into? The UN should demand Bush resign and leave the US, just as Bush demanded of Hussein in Iraq. We need regime change right here in the USA. That should be the price of UN and world assistance to clean up the mess Bush and Blair made. Correction, the mess they made after lying to us all. For those who disagree quotes from Bush are below. Anyone who can't recognize these statements as lies shouldn't be lecturing anyone on religion or morals.

George Bush:

"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."
United Nations Address
September 12, 2002
"Iraq has stockpiled biological and chemical weapons, and is rebuilding the facilities used to make more of those weapons."
"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have."
Radio Address
October 5, 2002
"The Iraqi regime . . . possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons."
"We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas."
"We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States."
"The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" - his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons."
Cincinnati, Ohio Speech
October 7, 2002
"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent."
State of the Union Address
January 28, 2003
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
Address to the Nation
March 17, 2003
 
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Thanks for 'cutting and pasting' news stories from the 'cut and paste' paper all day...and again for the same quotes you like to 'cut and paste' in nearly every thread you post. Keep up the good work.
 

RDWYTruckDriver

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Isn't the NY Times the paper who employed a writer that faked stories ? Not that this is in that same way but the NY Times is not credible in my view.

 
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Yea, they like to make stories up, as well as 'cut and paste', like BOOBDN, and pass the stuff of as if their own...reminds me of Gail Wyand :)
 

MonkeyK

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OK, so there are a couple of bitter forum members who wish to crap on this thread. Anyone want to discuss the opinion stated in and after the article?

I'd say that demanding Bush resign is an overly strong reaction. Why not just demand that we commit the resources necessary (or work with the UN to establish the necessary resources) to correct the stated problem?
 

sandorski

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The US is stuck in Iraq and the US Army is practically fully deployed there. If something comes up somewhere else, how's the US going to respond? The longer this crap goes on, the closer the Draft comes to re-instatement. Shades of Vietnam.
 

BOBDN

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Originally posted by: RDWYTruckDriver
Isn't the NY Times the paper who employed a writer that faked stories ? Not that this is in that same way but the NY Times is not credible in my view.

The NY Times had one writer faking stories.

The entire Bush administration are liars.

And it's the Times whose credibility you criticize.

Any opinions on the meat of the story?

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xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

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And I didn't pass anything off as my own, I gave credit to the source. Stop evading the subject. Comment on the piece.
 

BOBDN

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Sorry, I don't read the Times, sir...or, I do, just from the original sources.


So you do read the Times?

What do you think of the points made in the article cut and pasted above?