A Marine with no money? You don't deserve to live.

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CLEVELAND (AP) ? On leave from the violence he had survived in the war in Iraq, a young Marine was so wary of crime on the streets of his own home town that he carried only $8 to avoid becoming a robbery target.

Despite his caution, Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield, 21, was shot point-blank in the neck during a robbery at a bus stop. Feeding and breathing tubes kept him alive 4 1/2 months, until he died of an infection on May 18.

Two men have been charged in the attack, and Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Bill Mason said Friday the case was under review to decide whether to seek the death penalty.

"It is an awful story," said Alberta Holt, the young Marine's aunt and his legal guardian when he was a teenager determined to flee a troubled Cleveland school for safer surroundings in the suburbs.

Crutchfield was attacked on Jan. 5 while he and his girlfriend were waiting for a bus. He had heeded the warnings of commanders that a Marine on leave might be seen as a prime robbery target with a pocketful of money, so he only carried $8, his military ID card and a bank card.

"They took it, turned his pockets inside out, took what he had and told him since he was a Marine and didn't have any money he didn't deserve to live. They put the gun to his neck and shot him," Holt told The Associated Press.


The two men charged in the attack were identified as Ean Farrow, 19, and Thomas Ray III, 20, both of Cleveland. Their attorneys did not respond to The Associated Press' requests for comment.

Crutchfield knew he was returning to Iraq for another tour of duty, but had hesitated to tell his family until he was nearing the end of his 30-day leave.

He apparently had a troubled family. Holt wouldn't discuss it except to say "his mom and dad didn't raise him, just his grandmother and me." He didn't smoke or drink, she said.

He had attended Cleveland's inner-city East High School, but asked that he be allowed to live with his aunt and grandmother and attend suburban Bedford High School for his final two years.

"He saw his school was in turmoil and asked to get out," Holt said.

Bedford High teachers recalled Crutchfield's smile, his pride in his appearance, his determination to join the Marine Corps after graduation in 2005 and his aspiration to become an architect.

"He was friendly and kind and willing to help out in any way that he could," counselor Yvonne Sims said in an e-mail.

Connie LaNasa, who works in the school office, said Crutchfield was a well-behaved student and went about his school work with little notice.

"He lived out what he wanted to do and that is to be a Marine," LaNasa said.

Faculty members remembered Crutchfield as a top student in the computer design program, an office assistant and participant in the prom fashion show.

After his long hospitalization, an infection broke out a week before he died. "He said it felt like he was getting hit by lightning," Holt said.

When Crutchfield's body was laid out Tuesday in the Sacrificial Missionary Baptist Church, his white military dress hat was tugged down close to his eyes to conceal the skull flap that had been kept open to relieve swelling in his brain.

Marines provided an honor guard at his funeral service and carried the casket to his grave at the Western Reserve National Cemetery near Akron.

He was buried there on the same day as a Vietnam veteran, two veterans from World War II and three from Korea.

Guy had a shit life and tries to better himself. Changes schools, lives with his grandmother since his parents weren't the best, etc, then joins the Marines. Only to be killed by a couple of fucksticks for not having enough money.

While I don't support the death penalty being administered by the state, I don't mind it so much when applied by individuals...

 

Throckmorton

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That's freaking terrible.. Cold blooded murder to shoot somebody they think doesn't deserve to live.

This should be a lesson to us though.. Carry money if you want to increase your chance of survival, not the other way around. I mean, how would robbers know you have no money and aren't worth robbing? Once they have you at gunpoint, are they more likely to kill you for giving them $50, or giving them nothing?
 

jpeyton

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The lesson here is simple: carry at least $300 worth of loaded firearms with you at all times.
 

gentobu

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
That's freaking terrible.. Cold blooded murder to shoot somebody they think doesn't deserve to live.

This should be a lesson to us though.. Carry money if you want to increase your chance of survival, not the other way around. I mean, how would robbers know you have no money and aren't worth robbing? Once they have you at gunpoint, are they more likely to kill you for giving them $50, or giving them nothing?

It doesn't really matter. Trash like that would have killed him anyway.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: tenshodo13
P&N is over there

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They really need to change the name of that forum, because it's really just politics and political news. There's no reason this shouldn't be posted in OT.
 

biggestmuff

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Originally posted by: gentobu
The two guys who killed him deserve to die.

I doubt it was just two of them. Pathogens and infecting organisms are microscopic.

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Originally posted by: mugs
They really need to change the name of that forum, because it's really just politics and political news. There's no reason this shouldn't be posted in OT.

Or name it P&R and allow common news items and current events in here.
 
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: tenshodo13
P&N is over there

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They really need to change the name of that forum, because it's really just politics and political news. There's no reason this shouldn't be posted in OT.

Yes there is. We get too many posts from amazingly hostile posters who degrade the lighthearted feel of ATOT. I prefer to keep the dark stuff in P&N.
 

gentobu

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Originally posted by: biggestmuff
Originally posted by: gentobu
The two guys who killed him deserve to die.

I doubt it was just two of them. Pathogens infecting organisms are microscopic.

AHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I see what you did there! He died because of an infection, so the 'guys' that killed him were really...microscopic organisms! HA! You sure got me there. I retract my statement then.
 

cubby1223

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Sounds like no matter what he did for a living, how much money he had on him, the person still would have said he didn't deserve to live and kill him.
 

Baked

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Cuyahoga County Prosecutor Bill Mason said Friday the case was under review to decide whether to seek the death penalty.

They can't treat it like the 2 pieces of shit had no hand in killing the marine because w/o life support, the marine's a dead man already.
 

Bill Brasky

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I don't go to p&n so I'm glad you posted it. These two guys do deserve to die though.
 

Throckmorton

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Stop posting that they deserve the death penalty. They deserve to suffer in jail for the rest of their lives, not cease to exist. I've never heard of something not existing being punished.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Stop posting that they deserve the death penalty. They deserve to suffer in jail for the rest of their lives, not cease to exist. I've never heard of something not existing being punished.

each one sucks.
in jail, they are guaranteed food and shelter. They are a burden to society whose money funds this constant upkeep of trash.
Personally, I still don't understand how the death penalty is supposedly more expensive than keeping a person locked away for life. Doesn't make sense. Government is always overbilled for bullshit, and the government is happy to oblige to said bills. You'd think government could get most things at cost, but rather, I swear on most things they pay more than the average consumer! ridiculous.

either way, I say I agree with this:
Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper
Throw them to the Marines he served with.

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