Are those basically Gov jobs? This may be a dumb quesiton, to get clearance you have to do what..?
A lot of jobs in the DC area require clearance?
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It's an extensive background check. Depending on the level of clearance, they interview people you've had contact with in the past (employeers, teachers, etc). I know someone who's HS band director was interviewed before he got his clearance.
You wont necessarily get polygraphed. Depends on the position and the organization. I have a Secret clearance and didnt get polygraphed, I know that even TS people here dont have to get polygraphed, though I work for a defense contractor.
Well thats comforting then.. I'd like to move to VA (Arlington). And maybe work in the DC area. All of the jobs there though mostly require some sort of clearance, and was upset with that...
It is expensive. You go to the government agency whose clearance you want to get (DoD is a popular one) fill out the paper work (last 10 years of your life for DoD, 7 for others), pay them the thousands of dollars and wait. Then, when they get around to you (1.5 year wait if I remember correctly) they will interview you, everyone you list on your paperwork, and your neighbors. Sometimes the interviews require face to face contact (DoD) sometimes not (DoJ).
Atleast that is what I have gathered so far
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
It is expensive. You go to the government agency whose clearance you want to get (DoD is a popular one) fill out the paper work (last 10 years of your life for DoD, 7 for others), pay them the thousands of dollars and wait. Then, when they get around to you (1.5 year wait if I remember correctly) they will interview you, everyone you list on your paperwork, and your neighbors. Sometimes the interviews require face to face contact (DoD) sometimes not (DoJ).
Atleast that is what I have gathered so far
That's ridiculous....
Originally posted by: Ordo1999
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
It is expensive. You go to the government agency whose clearance you want to get (DoD is a popular one) fill out the paper work (last 10 years of your life for DoD, 7 for others), pay them the thousands of dollars and wait. Then, when they get around to you (1.5 year wait if I remember correctly) they will interview you, everyone you list on your paperwork, and your neighbors. Sometimes the interviews require face to face contact (DoD) sometimes not (DoJ).
Atleast that is what I have gathered so far
That's ridiculous....
Are you sure you have never had a government job before? You seem to understand the process pretty well, I mean hell, you described it in one word
Actually, your employer will typically be paying the fees for your security clearance. I did not pay one dime out of pocket when I got mine. Also, the 1.5 year wait is bunk as well. I had a full TS clearance in less than a year. I had an interim secret within a couple of months, full secret in less than 6 months, and full TS in less than a year. It can take longer depending on your background. If you have moved around a lot it will take more time. Typically it is the FBI doing the background checking, and they will go walking door to door in neighborhoods you have lived in in the past and talk to your current and former neighbors. As for a polygraph test, those are pretty rare. The level of clearance that I had technically required one, but I got my clearance at a time when they were cutting back and never had to take it. There are also different levels of polygraph as well (I would have been lined up for the lifestyles one, which is nasty).Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
It is expensive. You go to the government agency whose clearance you want to get (DoD is a popular one) fill out the paper work (last 10 years of your life for DoD, 7 for others), pay them the thousands of dollars and wait. Then, when they get around to you (1.5 year wait if I remember correctly) they will interview you, everyone you list on your paperwork, and your neighbors. Sometimes the interviews require face to face contact (DoD) sometimes not (DoJ).
Atleast that is what I have gathered so far
Also, not everyone inside the beltway will require a clearance, though a significantly larger percentage will.
Yes, unless you have no job.
I take it you have had yours for a while. The DoD is severely backed up at the moment (and have been for about 2-3 years). It is taking 1.5+ years to get a clearance. No, it should not take this long, but...
This is true. Though one would wonder why you would want a clearance if you did not have a job that required it. I guess there are some employers that will only hire you if you already have the clearance, but that's why you get your first job working for Uncle Sammy himself.Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Yes, unless you have no job.
Usually the backups are caused by the clearances themselves, but I guess with the FBI peering in everyone's windows under the guise of the Patriot Act they have less time to run around doing background checks. It has been quite some time since I got my clearance, so I imagine things have changed since then. There were people that I worked with that took in excess of 2 years to get their clearances, but it was usually someone that moved around a lot as a kid and thus it took them longer to process.
No I don't have a job down there. I wanted the clearance because most listings require you to have the clearance first..
Originally posted by: Cerebus451
This is true. Though one would wonder why you would want a clearance if you did not have a job that required it. I guess there are some employers that will only hire you if you already have the clearance, but that's why you get your first job working for Uncle Sammy himself.Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Yes, unless you have no job.
Usually the backups are caused by the clearances themselves, but I guess with the FBI peering in everyone's windows under the guise of the Patriot Act they have less time to run around doing background checks. It has been quite some time since I got my clearance, so I imagine things have changed since then. There were people that I worked with that took in excess of 2 years to get their clearances, but it was usually someone that moved around a lot as a kid and thus it took them longer to process.
About 2-2.5 years ago the DoD was something like 50-500,000 applications behind. It was taking quite a while to get anything through, and they had to hire a bunch of contractors to get through what they had. Recently I heard another big delay, and I think it was 1.5 years, but I could be remembering it wrong. An Interim clearance is pretty quick though.
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Yes, unless you have no job.
AFAIK, you have to have a job with a company that has a security office in place to get a clearance. You can't just go out as a private citizen and get a clearance, even if you wanted to pay for it.
I take it you have had yours for a while. The DoD is severely backed up at the moment (and have been for about 2-3 years). It is taking 1.5+ years to get a clearance. No, it should not take this long, but...[/quote]
For higher level stuff you could easily wait > 1 year for a completely new clearance. Not sure about SECRET, that an move much faster I'm told. That's why companies want people who already have (or have had) clearances ... they can't get you cleared until you are on their payroll, but they don't want to hire you when you can't do the job they hired you for for maybe > a year, and possibly not get cleared to do that job at all. I don't really know if they pay out-of-pocket for the clearance or not.
Na it's ok. I'll stay in the private sector. Hell some, if not most, private companies won't even check if you use drugs or not.
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