A look at how fast Verizon's FIOS is...

Goosemaster

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http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060202-6104.html

We contacted Dr. Marvin Sirbu, Professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University and an FTTP expert to see how the numbers really add up. In short, there's almost no cause for concern that Verizon's own traffic will relegate other services to the dark alleys of the Fios network. The video is actually being delivered on a separate wavelength from the other services. According to Sirbu, roughly 3.5Gbps of the network's capacity will be allocated for downstream video. That leaves 620Mbps of bandwidth for 'Net traffic, which is split up between the 32 users on each Broadband Passive Optical Network node. Once Verizon switches to Gigabit PON, that number will rise to 2.4Gbps. Video on demand will be delivered via IPTV.


:Q
 

Goosemaster

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What's funny is that Verizon is getting to provide absoltuely ridiculos amounts of bandwidth and At&T is capping their Fiber @ 6Mbps according to Ars, and is saying that speeds above 15Mbps are irrelevant because backboens aren't fast enough


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TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060202-6104.html

We contacted Dr. Marvin Sirbu, Professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University and an FTTP expert to see how the numbers really add up. In short, there's almost no cause for concern that Verizon's own traffic will relegate other services to the dark alleys of the Fios network. The video is actually being delivered on a separate wavelength from the other services. According to Sirbu, roughly 3.5Gbps of the network's capacity will be allocated for downstream video. That leaves 620Mbps of bandwidth for 'Net traffic, which is split up between the 32 users on each Broadband Passive Optical Network node. Once Verizon switches to Gigabit PON, that number will rise to 2.4Gbps. Video on demand will be delivered via IPTV.


:Q

:shocked:

All I want is my works internet tho....once I have that I'll be a happy man

From Speakeasy speed test-

Last Result:
Download Speed: 259465 kbps (32433.1 KB/sec transfer rate)(usually peaks around 40K)
Upload Speed: 9347 kbps (1168.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

Barring that Verizon FiOS FTW!
 

K1052

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My 8 meg down is looking pretty paltry now.

Me want fiber.
 

Specop 007

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I'll be happy with my TWC 2 meg or whatever it is and cheaper ammo.

We all have our priorities. :eek:
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060202-6104.html

We contacted Dr. Marvin Sirbu, Professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University and an FTTP expert to see how the numbers really add up. In short, there's almost no cause for concern that Verizon's own traffic will relegate other services to the dark alleys of the Fios network. The video is actually being delivered on a separate wavelength from the other services. According to Sirbu, roughly 3.5Gbps of the network's capacity will be allocated for downstream video. That leaves 620Mbps of bandwidth for 'Net traffic, which is split up between the 32 users on each Broadband Passive Optical Network node. Once Verizon switches to Gigabit PON, that number will rise to 2.4Gbps. Video on demand will be delivered via IPTV.


:Q

:shocked:

All I want is my works internet tho....once I have that I'll be a happy man

From Speakeasy speed test-

Last Result:
Download Speed: 259465 kbps (32433.1 KB/sec transfer rate)(usually peaks around 40K)
Upload Speed: 9347 kbps (1168.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

Barring that Verizon FiOS FTW!

WTf...32MB/s ....256Mb/s ? You gotta be on an OC-12...
 

dabuddha

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060202-6104.html

We contacted Dr. Marvin Sirbu, Professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University and an FTTP expert to see how the numbers really add up. In short, there's almost no cause for concern that Verizon's own traffic will relegate other services to the dark alleys of the Fios network. The video is actually being delivered on a separate wavelength from the other services. According to Sirbu, roughly 3.5Gbps of the network's capacity will be allocated for downstream video. That leaves 620Mbps of bandwidth for 'Net traffic, which is split up between the 32 users on each Broadband Passive Optical Network node. Once Verizon switches to Gigabit PON, that number will rise to 2.4Gbps. Video on demand will be delivered via IPTV.


:Q

:shocked:

All I want is my works internet tho....once I have that I'll be a happy man

From Speakeasy speed test-

Last Result:
Download Speed: 259465 kbps (32433.1 KB/sec transfer rate)(usually peaks around 40K)
Upload Speed: 9347 kbps (1168.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

Barring that Verizon FiOS FTW!

Amen to that :/

Last Result:
Download Speed: 32926 kbps (4115.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 18259 kbps (2282.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060202-6104.html

We contacted Dr. Marvin Sirbu, Professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University and an FTTP expert to see how the numbers really add up. In short, there's almost no cause for concern that Verizon's own traffic will relegate other services to the dark alleys of the Fios network. The video is actually being delivered on a separate wavelength from the other services. According to Sirbu, roughly 3.5Gbps of the network's capacity will be allocated for downstream video. That leaves 620Mbps of bandwidth for 'Net traffic, which is split up between the 32 users on each Broadband Passive Optical Network node. Once Verizon switches to Gigabit PON, that number will rise to 2.4Gbps. Video on demand will be delivered via IPTV.


:Q

:shocked:

All I want is my works internet tho....once I have that I'll be a happy man

From Speakeasy speed test-

Last Result:
Download Speed: 259465 kbps (32433.1 KB/sec transfer rate)(usually peaks around 40K)
Upload Speed: 9347 kbps (1168.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

Barring that Verizon FiOS FTW!

WTf...32MB/s ....256Mb/s ? You gotta be on an OC-12...

Oh and that was me logging onto Citrix Metaframe from home and testing works connection from over 30 miles away ;)
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060202-6104.html

We contacted Dr. Marvin Sirbu, Professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University and an FTTP expert to see how the numbers really add up. In short, there's almost no cause for concern that Verizon's own traffic will relegate other services to the dark alleys of the Fios network. The video is actually being delivered on a separate wavelength from the other services. According to Sirbu, roughly 3.5Gbps of the network's capacity will be allocated for downstream video. That leaves 620Mbps of bandwidth for 'Net traffic, which is split up between the 32 users on each Broadband Passive Optical Network node. Once Verizon switches to Gigabit PON, that number will rise to 2.4Gbps. Video on demand will be delivered via IPTV.


:Q

:shocked:

All I want is my works internet tho....once I have that I'll be a happy man

From Speakeasy speed test-

Last Result:
Download Speed: 259465 kbps (32433.1 KB/sec transfer rate)(usually peaks around 40K)
Upload Speed: 9347 kbps (1168.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

Barring that Verizon FiOS FTW!

WTf...32MB/s ....256Mb/s ? You gotta be on an OC-12...

Oh and that was me logging onto Citrix Metaframe from home and testing works connection from over 30 miles away ;)

bah......

Either way, you have to be the admin or something because there is no way in HELL a regular user would have that much provisioned bandwidth

*still foaming at the mouth*
 

TraumaRN

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060202-6104.html

We contacted Dr. Marvin Sirbu, Professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University and an FTTP expert to see how the numbers really add up. In short, there's almost no cause for concern that Verizon's own traffic will relegate other services to the dark alleys of the Fios network. The video is actually being delivered on a separate wavelength from the other services. According to Sirbu, roughly 3.5Gbps of the network's capacity will be allocated for downstream video. That leaves 620Mbps of bandwidth for 'Net traffic, which is split up between the 32 users on each Broadband Passive Optical Network node. Once Verizon switches to Gigabit PON, that number will rise to 2.4Gbps. Video on demand will be delivered via IPTV.


:Q

:shocked:

All I want is my works internet tho....once I have that I'll be a happy man

From Speakeasy speed test-

Last Result:
Download Speed: 259465 kbps (32433.1 KB/sec transfer rate)(usually peaks around 40K)
Upload Speed: 9347 kbps (1168.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

Barring that Verizon FiOS FTW!

WTf...32MB/s ....256Mb/s ? You gotta be on an OC-12...

Oh and that was me logging onto Citrix Metaframe from home and testing works connection from over 30 miles away ;)

bah......

Either way, you have to be the admin or something because there is no way in HELL a regular user would have that much provisioned bandwidth

*still foaming at the mouth*

I actually am just a regular user. But it's the fact that we're pushing massive amounts of data amount ALL the time that we need such provisioned bandwidth.....well I dont need that much, but to keep everything running smoothly. Basically here is why, and again I dont know if we NEED that much but....basically my parent company the DMC(Detroit Medical Center) runs 9 hospitals, and literally hundreds of clinics, all of them connected on one network, on top of that all medical imaging is online and if you've ever seen a Hi-Res CT scan or MRI thats alot of bandwidth, on top of that my hospital is completely paperless everything patient wise is done in the computer and obviously that has to be realttime not to mention the other 8 hospitals will all transition to paperless charting.....so we do needs lots of bandwidth....whether I need that much is questionable ;)
 

j00fek

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Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
Wow, too bad it'll be years before it's available where I live.

same here in maine, nothing hits us till 5-10 yrs after it goes public :|
 

lozina

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I'm lucky enough to have FIOS internet but what I really want is the fiber optic TV service. No idea when that's going to roll out in my area. The internet is great but the problem is nothign ever takes advantage of the speeds I have... even corporate sites dont upload to me at a rate which takes advatnage of FIOS speeds. I spent maybe the first month after getting FIOS downloading tons of crap from bittorrent sites but then I ran out of things to download so since then I probably could have lived with regular DSL and not noticed a difference
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: lozina
I'm lucky enough to have FIOS internet but what I really want is the fiber optic TV service. No idea when that's going to roll out in my area. The internet is great but the problem is nothign ever takes advantage of the speeds I have... even corporate sites dont upload to me at a rate which takes advatnage of FIOS speeds. I spent maybe the first month after getting FIOS downloading tons of crap from bittorrent sites but then I ran out of things to download so since then I probably could have lived with regular DSL and not noticed a difference

It really depends on what you do. Someone like myself could max out a t3 without a hitch.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: DeathBUA
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060202-6104.html

We contacted Dr. Marvin Sirbu, Professor of Engineering and Public Policy at Carnegie Mellon University and an FTTP expert to see how the numbers really add up. In short, there's almost no cause for concern that Verizon's own traffic will relegate other services to the dark alleys of the Fios network. The video is actually being delivered on a separate wavelength from the other services. According to Sirbu, roughly 3.5Gbps of the network's capacity will be allocated for downstream video. That leaves 620Mbps of bandwidth for 'Net traffic, which is split up between the 32 users on each Broadband Passive Optical Network node. Once Verizon switches to Gigabit PON, that number will rise to 2.4Gbps. Video on demand will be delivered via IPTV.


:Q

:shocked:

All I want is my works internet tho....once I have that I'll be a happy man

From Speakeasy speed test-

Last Result:
Download Speed: 259465 kbps (32433.1 KB/sec transfer rate)(usually peaks around 40K)
Upload Speed: 9347 kbps (1168.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

Barring that Verizon FiOS FTW!

WTf...32MB/s ....256Mb/s ? You gotta be on an OC-12...

Oh and that was me logging onto Citrix Metaframe from home and testing works connection from over 30 miles away ;)

bah......

Either way, you have to be the admin or something because there is no way in HELL a regular user would have that much provisioned bandwidth

*still foaming at the mouth*

I actually am just a regular user. But it's the fact that we're pushing massive amounts of data amount ALL the time that we need such provisioned bandwidth.....well I dont need that much, but to keep everything running smoothly. Basically here is why, and again I dont know if we NEED that much but....basically my parent company the DMC(Detroit Medical Center) runs 9 hospitals, and literally hundreds of clinics, all of them connected on one network, on top of that all medical imaging is online and if you've ever seen a Hi-Res CT scan or MRI thats alot of bandwidth, on top of that my hospital is completely paperless everything patient wise is done in the computer and obviously that has to be realttime not to mention the other 8 hospitals will all transition to paperless charting.....so we do needs lots of bandwidth....whether I need that much is questionable ;)

cool.

Continue under the pretense that your need for such speed is not questionable and not open for debate:evil:
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
What's funny is that Verizon is getting to provide absoltuely ridiculos amounts of bandwidth and At&T is capping their Fiber @ 6Mbps according to Ars, and is saying that speeds above 15Mbps are irrelevant because backboens aren't fast enough


...

They're pretty much right in my experience. I've got 6Mbps down, and few sites I visit rarely hit that. My speeds are limited mostly by outside slowdowns.
 

RagingBITCH

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We have FIOS at the house and FIOS TV. (Ditched that POS DirecTV) I don't know how the bandwidth is used in terms of the TV and the internet, but we can be watching an On-Demand movie, playing Halo 2 online, and I can be VPN'ed and remote desktop'ed into work with no slowdown whatsoever. It's definitely great stuff. I guess I'm biased too considering I did work for a contractor for their FIOS stuff, but still. :D
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
We have FIOS at the house and FIOS TV. (Ditched that POS DirecTV) I don't know how the bandwidth is used in terms of the TV and the internet, but we can be watching an On-Demand movie, playing Halo 2 online, and I can be VPN'ed and remote desktop'ed into work with no slowdown whatsoever. It's definitely great stuff. I guess I'm biased too considering I did work for a contractor for their FIOS stuff, but still. :D

A good freind of mine is getting it really soon and I can't wait to go mess with it...he is currently using OTA HD, and this will be a big improvement over that.
 

lozina

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Oh one other cool thing about FIOS in my experience is it is so much more reliable. I remember my DSL (also from verizon) would go out occassionally, and I'd have to fuss around with reseting the modem or having the router try to reconnect... but so far I have no havd a single hiccup from FIOS and it will be 1 year this summer.

A bad thing is there is no static IP and they frown on you running your own web server so they block port 80 (just like with DSL) which is a real PITA. Friend tells me with Optimum Boost (Cable company's fiber optic) they allow both static IP and let you run web servers. But I cannot confirm that! It sounds too good to be true IMO
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
We have FIOS at the house and FIOS TV. (Ditched that POS DirecTV) I don't know how the bandwidth is used in terms of the TV and the internet, but we can be watching an On-Demand movie, playing Halo 2 online, and I can be VPN'ed and remote desktop'ed into work with no slowdown whatsoever. It's definitely great stuff. I guess I'm biased too considering I did work for a contractor for their FIOS stuff, but still. :D

A good freind of mine is getting it really soon and I can't wait to go mess with it...he is currently using OTA HD, and this will be a big improvement over that.

Our neighbor Greg 3 houses down has FIOS HDTV. It's awesome. He was using OTA HD himself and couldn't pass up getting HD. (He has a 52" something, forgot what kind of TV though) It looks gorgeous though.