A little something I found on another forum

Greenman

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WARNING: Reading the following will lower your IQ, cause constipation, and may lead to tooth decay.
The fellow who posted believes it is fact.

There are 2 of you, a human you and a paper you, or now a cloned virtual you
1) Real person- the flesh and blood you
2) Fictional person: a corporation/artificial entity; a straw man
Your Straw Man Is an Artificial Person.
On a birth certificate, the name that appears, is in all capital letters. This name is a person's legal name. However, people often write their name using a combination of lowercase and capital letters, which is, legally speaking, a separate entity.
The straw man was created by law shortly after you were born via the registration of the application for your birth certificate. The name of your straw man is your name in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. You will notice that the inscription on the birth certificate is your name in all-capital letters.
The cards in your wallet bearing your name spelled in all capital letters means that you have been enfranchised and have the status of a corporation. You have entered into multi-variant agreements that place you in an equity relationship with the Crown.
These invisible contracts include, birth certificates, citizenship records, employment agreements, social security, driver’s licenses and bank accounts. It is perhaps helpful to note here that contracts do not now, nor have they ever had to be stated in writing in order to be enforceable by American judges. If it is written down, it is merely a written statement of the contract.
Birth Certificate
Through a legal loophole the royals have created, US citizens are considered the property of the queen under British Maritime law. Since we are born of our mother’s water, from her “birth canal,” we are thereby a maritime product, a “shipped” commodity. Our mothers were delivering a product under maritime law and that’s why we are born in a “delivery room.”
Notice how regardless of whether you send a product by air, water, or land – you “ship” it. When a ship pulls into port, it pulls in and stops, this is called “its birth”. The ship pulls into its “berth” and ties to the “dock.” The Captain has to provide the port authorities with a “certificate of manifest” declaring the products he has brought and their value.
That’s why the “doc” signs your “berth” certificate, your “certificate of manifest”, because you are a corporation owned item, a human resource. You’re kept in the Maternity “Ward.” Why a ward? No other hospital areas are called wards. Prisons have wards and wardens.
If you notice on the bottom of your birth certificate it says Department of Commerce. It is a property of the Department of Commerce because you are nothing more than a piece of commercial material.
Your birth certificate number is a security on the New York Stock Exchange. On your birth certificate in the lower right corner there are a series of numbers that pertain to the New York Stock Exchange. If a broker looks these numbers up, they will see how much your stock is worth. You are worth money to the international bank that bought you in 1930.
 

pete6032

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WARNING: Reading the following will lower your IQ, cause constipation, and may lead to tooth decay.
The fellow who posted believes it is fact.

There are 2 of you, a human you and a paper you, or now a cloned virtual you
1) Real person- the flesh and blood you
2) Fictional person: a corporation/artificial entity; a straw man
Your Straw Man Is an Artificial Person.
On a birth certificate, the name that appears, is in all capital letters. This name is a person's legal name. However, people often write their name using a combination of lowercase and capital letters, which is, legally speaking, a separate entity.
The straw man was created by law shortly after you were born via the registration of the application for your birth certificate. The name of your straw man is your name in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. You will notice that the inscription on the birth certificate is your name in all-capital letters.
The cards in your wallet bearing your name spelled in all capital letters means that you have been enfranchised and have the status of a corporation. You have entered into multi-variant agreements that place you in an equity relationship with the Crown.
These invisible contracts include, birth certificates, citizenship records, employment agreements, social security, driver’s licenses and bank accounts. It is perhaps helpful to note here that contracts do not now, nor have they ever had to be stated in writing in order to be enforceable by American judges. If it is written down, it is merely a written statement of the contract.
Birth Certificate
Through a legal loophole the royals have created, US citizens are considered the property of the queen under British Maritime law. Since we are born of our mother’s water, from her “birth canal,” we are thereby a maritime product, a “shipped” commodity. Our mothers were delivering a product under maritime law and that’s why we are born in a “delivery room.”
Notice how regardless of whether you send a product by air, water, or land – you “ship” it. When a ship pulls into port, it pulls in and stops, this is called “its birth”. The ship pulls into its “berth” and ties to the “dock.” The Captain has to provide the port authorities with a “certificate of manifest” declaring the products he has brought and their value.
That’s why the “doc” signs your “berth” certificate, your “certificate of manifest”, because you are a corporation owned item, a human resource. You’re kept in the Maternity “Ward.” Why a ward? No other hospital areas are called wards. Prisons have wards and wardens.
If you notice on the bottom of your birth certificate it says Department of Commerce. It is a property of the Department of Commerce because you are nothing more than a piece of commercial material.
Your birth certificate number is a security on the New York Stock Exchange. On your birth certificate in the lower right corner there are a series of numbers that pertain to the New York Stock Exchange. If a broker looks these numbers up, they will see how much your stock is worth. You are worth money to the international bank that bought you in 1930.
Do you have any commentary about this or are we supposed to decipher something here?
 

dphantom

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Jan 14, 2005
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I think I just came down with myocarditis. Or was that the covid shot. Either way, my night is now ruined. TY Greenman :D
 

dlerious

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Mar 4, 2004
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Search for Sovereign Citizen, American National, Moorish Sovereign.

Plenty of youtube videos of these asshats squatting on others property and driving without license, registration, or insurance (claim to be traveling, not driving).
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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WARNING: Reading the following will lower your IQ, cause constipation, and may lead to tooth decay.
The fellow who posted believes it is fact.

There are 2 of you, a human you and a paper you, or now a cloned virtual you
1) Real person- the flesh and blood you
2) Fictional person: a corporation/artificial entity; a straw man
Your Straw Man Is an Artificial Person.
On a birth certificate, the name that appears, is in all capital letters. This name is a person's legal name. However, people often write their name using a combination of lowercase and capital letters, which is, legally speaking, a separate entity.
The straw man was created by law shortly after you were born via the registration of the application for your birth certificate. The name of your straw man is your name in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. You will notice that the inscription on the birth certificate is your name in all-capital letters.
The cards in your wallet bearing your name spelled in all capital letters means that you have been enfranchised and have the status of a corporation. You have entered into multi-variant agreements that place you in an equity relationship with the Crown.
These invisible contracts include, birth certificates, citizenship records, employment agreements, social security, driver’s licenses and bank accounts. It is perhaps helpful to note here that contracts do not now, nor have they ever had to be stated in writing in order to be enforceable by American judges. If it is written down, it is merely a written statement of the contract.
Birth Certificate
Through a legal loophole the royals have created, US citizens are considered the property of the queen under British Maritime law. Since we are born of our mother’s water, from her “birth canal,” we are thereby a maritime product, a “shipped” commodity. Our mothers were delivering a product under maritime law and that’s why we are born in a “delivery room.”
Notice how regardless of whether you send a product by air, water, or land – you “ship” it. When a ship pulls into port, it pulls in and stops, this is called “its birth”. The ship pulls into its “berth” and ties to the “dock.” The Captain has to provide the port authorities with a “certificate of manifest” declaring the products he has brought and their value.
That’s why the “doc” signs your “berth” certificate, your “certificate of manifest”, because you are a corporation owned item, a human resource. You’re kept in the Maternity “Ward.” Why a ward? No other hospital areas are called wards. Prisons have wards and wardens.
If you notice on the bottom of your birth certificate it says Department of Commerce. It is a property of the Department of Commerce because you are nothing more than a piece of commercial material.
Your birth certificate number is a security on the New York Stock Exchange. On your birth certificate in the lower right corner there are a series of numbers that pertain to the New York Stock Exchange. If a broker looks these numbers up, they will see how much your stock is worth. You are worth money to the international bank that bought you in 1930.
Sovereign citizen shit has been going on for decades.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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All I see is a person so bereft of his or her natural self respect as to have been driven mad by a need for self importance attention. Look at me look at me, see how penetrating my intellect is. And look at how quotidian you are by comparison. Indeed, I am very special.
 

Moonbeam

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Nov 24, 1999
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Sovereign citizen shit has been going on for decades.
Your system made me feel so worthless that I must invent a way to reject it. I am a rock and an island of pain and suffering and I demand the right to deny you your success. I spit into the wind. Not even Jordan Peterson can help me reprogram the damage by the acquisition of the self respect that comes with making my own bed.
 

Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Search for Sovereign Citizen, American National, Moorish Sovereign.

Plenty of youtube videos of these asshats squatting on others property and driving without license, registration, or insurance (claim to be traveling, not driving).

Those dopes getting pulled out of their unplated, unregistered, unlicensed cars and arrested as they try to rattle off some traveler / law dictionary nonsense are some of my favorite vids.
 
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WelshBloke

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WARNING: Reading the following will lower your IQ, cause constipation, and may lead to tooth decay.
The fellow who posted believes it is fact.

There are 2 of you, a human you and a paper you, or now a cloned virtual you
1) Real person- the flesh and blood you
2) Fictional person: a corporation/artificial entity; a straw man
Your Straw Man Is an Artificial Person.
On a birth certificate, the name that appears, is in all capital letters. This name is a person's legal name. However, people often write their name using a combination of lowercase and capital letters, which is, legally speaking, a separate entity.
The straw man was created by law shortly after you were born via the registration of the application for your birth certificate. The name of your straw man is your name in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. You will notice that the inscription on the birth certificate is your name in all-capital letters.
The cards in your wallet bearing your name spelled in all capital letters means that you have been enfranchised and have the status of a corporation. You have entered into multi-variant agreements that place you in an equity relationship with the Crown.
These invisible contracts include, birth certificates, citizenship records, employment agreements, social security, driver’s licenses and bank accounts. It is perhaps helpful to note here that contracts do not now, nor have they ever had to be stated in writing in order to be enforceable by American judges. If it is written down, it is merely a written statement of the contract.
Birth Certificate
Through a legal loophole the royals have created, US citizens are considered the property of the queen under British Maritime law. Since we are born of our mother’s water, from her “birth canal,” we are thereby a maritime product, a “shipped” commodity. Our mothers were delivering a product under maritime law and that’s why we are born in a “delivery room.”
Notice how regardless of whether you send a product by air, water, or land – you “ship” it. When a ship pulls into port, it pulls in and stops, this is called “its birth”. The ship pulls into its “berth” and ties to the “dock.” The Captain has to provide the port authorities with a “certificate of manifest” declaring the products he has brought and their value.
That’s why the “doc” signs your “berth” certificate, your “certificate of manifest”, because you are a corporation owned item, a human resource. You’re kept in the Maternity “Ward.” Why a ward? No other hospital areas are called wards. Prisons have wards and wardens.
If you notice on the bottom of your birth certificate it says Department of Commerce. It is a property of the Department of Commerce because you are nothing more than a piece of commercial material.
Your birth certificate number is a security on the New York Stock Exchange. On your birth certificate in the lower right corner there are a series of numbers that pertain to the New York Stock Exchange. If a broker looks these numbers up, they will see how much your stock is worth. You are worth money to the international bank that bought you in 1930.
How do people who think like this manage to survive? Do they have people who help them with simple day to day decisions?
 

Greenman

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Do you have any commentary about this or are we supposed to decipher something here?
What is there to say? This is a special kind of crazy that's pretty much self explanatory. I assumed anyone reading it what come to that conclusion.
 

skyking

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Nov 21, 2001
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I was in a store recently, there was a woman who was selling her sovereign citizen shtick to everyone present. She was open carry and I found my way the fuck out of there before she latched onto me. GAHHHH!
 
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sdifox

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Sep 30, 2005
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Well it's full on cray cray but bureaucracy has its own idiosyncrasies. I adopted a Western first name when I moved to Canada. But the provincial government will only print what is on your birth certificate on the driver's license, never mind mine was a translation. But my adopted Western name is on my citizenship card and on my passport...
 
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Greenman

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How do people who think like this manage to survive? Do they have people who help them with simple day to day decisions?
There are a handful of them that I interact with now and then, at least three own successful businesses.
It's actually more than a little startling to read some of things they believe. The obvious ones about chemtrails and the faked moon landing, but they also do mind control nanobots, space lasers burning Maui, and of course plenty about covid and the vaccine.
 

WelshBloke

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There are a handful of them that I interact with now and then, at least three own successful businesses.
It's actually more than a little startling to read some of things they believe. The obvious ones about chemtrails and the faked moon landing, but they also do mind control nanobots, space lasers burning Maui, and of course plenty about covid and the vaccine.
Do you not ever say "you do realise that you are nuts dont you" to them?
 
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Greenman

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Do you not ever say "you do realise that you are nuts dont you" to them?
All the time, and a couple of them hate me for it.
Sometimes it's amusing, often it's just sad. I continue to visit because it's like watching a plain crash, I don't really want to see the carnage, but can't look away.

I should also point out that in other areas of the place there are a bunch great people that I enjoy interacting with.
 

WelshBloke

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All the time, and a couple of them hate me for it.
Sometimes it's amusing, often it's just sad. I continue to visit because it's like watching a plain crash, I don't really want to see the carnage, but can't look away.

I should also point out that in other areas of the place there are a bunch great people that I enjoy interacting with.
I usually find that getting people like that to slowly and logically explain their position is enough for them to see that their position doesn't make sense. The trick is not to let them jump over the huge lapses in logic that they'll have.
 
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Greenman

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I usually find that getting people like that to slowly and logically explain their position is enough for them to see that their position doesn't make sense. The trick is not to let them jump over the huge lapses in logic that they'll have.
I tried that, got absolutely nowhere.
The reality is most of it is harmless. These aren't people that are going to take up arms. A couple of them are expecting the military to toss out Biden and most other democrats and reinstate Trump as the rightful president.

A lot of the stuff reads like a Dr. Evil plot to overthrow the world. Most of the sites they link to are selling toe fungus cream and effortless weight loss pills. I had no idea that toe fungus was such a huge problem, that was a startling discovery.
 

Jaskalas

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There are a handful of them that I interact with now and then, at least three own successful businesses.
It's actually more than a little startling to read some of things they believe. The obvious ones about chemtrails and the faked moon landing, but they also do mind control nanobots, space lasers burning Maui, and of course plenty about covid and the vaccine.
Never doubt me when I proclaim thus: Humans are batshit. Period.

We are ALL that crazy. The only difference is we didn't fall off the wagon. Most here still hold to the institutions that indoctrinated us into seeking reason from madness. Those "crazy" people, they chose to identify with something else. Because they are broken and needed something else, something new to cling to. And it doesn't make any lick of sense because it is organic and they live in a sheltered society that coddles them.

In ages past, people who fall of the wagon were either imprisoned, exiled, or killed.
Where as today, they are given social media platforms to try and spread their disease of the mind.
And given the sorry, stress filled state of our society.... there are more broken people desperately wanting something different to cling to. So their crazy tends to find a bit more purchase than it otherwise would.
 

Greenman

Lifer
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It really isn't harmless. It rots a persons ability to think logically and usefully about the world. I get that that's their problem but it's a waste.
But it ends up being a zero sum game as long as they don't do anything stupid.
 

WelshBloke

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But it ends up being a zero sum game as long as they don't do anything stupid.
I'm not sure that fits the definition of a zero sum game unless other people automatically become more intelligent to
counter their idiocy! :p

They are mentally ill though, you do realise that?
 
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