A Jibjab showdown

[alchemize]

On the lighter side

A Jibjab showdown

 

[conjur]

That song is 60+ years old! At what point do copyrights expire?

 

[Baltazar325]

Originally posted by: conjur
That song is 60+ years old! At what point do copyrights expire?

I'm not sure. I am taking IP this fall, if you wait a few months I can tell you..

 

[ciba]

They will likely never expire. Any time certain copywrights come close to expiration, Congress extends their duration.

At the same time, parody is legally permissible.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Parody should be OK, unless it's extremely damaging to the original owner, right?

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: ciba

At the same time, parody is legally permissible.

Not all parodies are legally permissible. The law isn't only black/white. There have been cases where a parody was deemed illegal.

 

[onelove]

Originally posted by: ciba
They will likely never expire. Any time certain copywrights come close to expiration, Congress extends their duration.

At the same time, parody is legally permissible.

forgive the editorialization, but this is so messed - just let the sh!t come back to the public domain. The copyrights about to expire were first obtained back at the birth of the recording industry. let that music get reborn & reused - there's so much great stuff there... [/rant] sorry

 

[onelove]

btw, that newer jibjab thing is pretty funny for those that haven't seen it.

 

[alchemize]

Wasn't the last extension to protect "Steamboat Willie" aka Mickey Mouse?

 

[daveshel]

Originally posted by: conjur
That song is 60+ years old! At what point do copyrights expire?

Copyrights are of a fixed duration but can be renewed.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Baltazar325

Originally posted by: conjur
That song is 60+ years old! At what point do copyrights expire?

I'm not sure. I am taking IP this fall, if you wait a few months I can tell you..

No, I need to know NOW!! :|







Appears the answer is in here:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap3.html#304

and that the song would appear to be well within the limits of protection.


But, I think Woody Guthrie would have approved. He was rather politically-oriented in his song writing.

 

[daveshel]

Looks like this would fall in the 28 + 47 category.

http://www.lib.rochester.edu/copyright/durcopy.htm

 

[raynman68]

That song is 60+ years old! At what point do copyrights expire?

I found this on findlaw.com

Duration of the Rights
Under current law, the copyright term for works created by individuals is the life of the author plus 70 years.

Woody Guthrie died in 1967, so I guess that means 2037 for this song.

Parody should be OK, unless it's extremely damaging to the original owner, right?

Anytime politicians are involved in anything even as satire or parody I consider it damaging. To paraphrase the oft use quote. politicians are capable of messing up a wet dream.:laugh:

Robert
And the men who hold high places
Must be the ones who start

 

[ciba]

Originally posted by: CanOWormsNot all parodies are legally permissible. The law isn't only black/white. There have been cases where a parody was deemed illegal.

You're right, I should have phrased it "Most parody is protected as fair use."

 

[imported_CADMaster]

Dang! That was hilarious!

Equal opportunity bashing! I love it!

 

[CWRMadcat]

Awesome...soooo hilarious. :beer:

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

"This puts a completely different spin on the song," said Kathryn Ostien, director of copyright licensing for the publisher.

Yes, and it's funny.

"The damage to the song is huge."

Sounds like someone is having a case of the Mondays!

 

[JetsFanatic]

GREAT!!!

 

[Perknose]

In related news, Red Dawn posted Moore Bush is Always Better a few days ago.

I thought it was pretty funny, though few others responded.

 

[Thump553]

Woody Guthrie was one of the best songwriters this country ever had, and was totally involved in social activism. His copywright position is pretty clear:

"This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do."

Guthrie copywright notice