A heartbreaking and disturbing result of Trump's deterent policy at the border.

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dainthomas

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No they aren’t and it’s silly to claim so. The easiest way to argue against someone is to demonize them I guess. A country securing its borders and attempting to control the flow of migration isnt a bad thing. The United States isn’t the only country doing this. It doesn’t mean they see them as animals, it’s absurd to claim so.

You're correct, having an immigration policy doesn't mean immigrants are animals. Making children sleep on concrete floors in freezing cages with nothing but foil blankets and no soap or toothpaste means they regard immigrants as animals.

These kids are supposed to be turned over to HHS in 72 hours, but they're staying in these hell holes for weeks. Yet somehow whenever a lawyer or reporter raises a stink about particular children, they're able to be moved out immediately. Sounds more like a criminal subhuman govt contractor who wants to maximize that sweet $750/day/child gravy train.
 

JEDIYoda

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There’s been a shift in the demographics of who is seeking entrance. There is a growing trend of families seeking asylum, a trend exasperated by factors well beyond who is in the White House, and one that will not magically go away once Trump is gone.
Of course they wont go away when Trump leaves office! He screwed things up so bad , I pity the next President who has to try to clean up Trumps mess!!
 

Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Hey, let me clue into something genius. We do know border crossings are sharply up under Trump. Since Trump set up a scenario that overwhelms ports of entry. People are resorting to more dangerous paths.

Want to know how that father and daughter died? He initially got the little girl across the river. Went back to retrieve mother. The daughter didn't understand and went back into the river to be with dad. He saw her and turned around. They both were swept away by the current.
If this were true, genius, I would expect crossing deaths to rise as a reflection of more people attempting it, but the number don’t reflect that. I read the story of how they died. It was a tragic mistake.

The underlying dynamics are far more complex than Trump and Obama.
 
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HomerJS

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If this were true, genius, I would expect crossing deaths to rise as a reflection of more people attempting it, but the number don’t reflect that. I read the story of how they died. It was a tragic mistake.

The underlying dynamics are far more complex than Trump and Obama.
Follow the bouncing ball...

Doing something more dangerous does not always result in death. There was a spike in deaths on the Everest climbs this year even though there were a similar number of climbing permits issued.

Not sure I can dumb this down any further
 

Starbuck1975

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Follow the bouncing ball...

Doing something more dangerous does not always result in death. There was a spike in deaths on the Everest climbs this year even though there were a similar number of climbing permits issued.
An increase in people attempting desert and river crossings is going to statistically result in higher deaths. Its just that simple.

Not sure I can dumb this down any further
I have faith in you
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Follow the bouncing ball...

Doing something more dangerous does not always result in death. There was a spike in deaths on the Everest climbs this year even though there were a similar number of climbing permits issued.

Not sure I can dumb this down any further

You're trying to have an honest discussion withe someone who has become incapable of doing so.
 

brandonbull

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Put the squeeze of people trying to claim asylum at legal ports of entry people cross at more dangerous locations. Sadly a father and daughter drown attempting to cross the Rio Grande river. Trump want to intentionality make things so terrible for people trying to enter the country it discourages others.



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This is the Progressheviks' cost to change American society. Is this enough of a crisis now at the border? Useful idiot Libtards went on nonstop about "Trump's manufactured border crisis". Even though this has been happening for years, Liberals are trying to put 100% of the blame on Trump. You know, the President that declared a national emergency at the border and was called every name in the book because of it. Not only do Progressheviks do everything in their power to help and encourage tragedies like this, but then use dead women, men, and children as cheap props for political gain. Progressheviks and their gang of useful idiots are truly disgusting pieces of filth.
 

JSt0rm

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This is the Progressheviks' cost to change American society. Is this enough of a crisis now at the border? Useful idiot Libtards went on nonstop about "Trump's manufactured border crisis". Even though this has been happening for years, Liberals are trying to put 100% of the blame on Trump. You know, the President that declared a national emergency at the border and was called every name in the book because of it. Not only do Progressheviks do everything in their power to help and encourage tragedies like this, but then use dead women, men, and children as cheap props for political gain. Progressheviks and their gang of useful idiots are truly disgusting pieces of filth.

LIBERALS!
 

Pohemi

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This is the Progressheviks' cost to change American society. Is this enough of a crisis now at the border? Useful idiot Libtards went on nonstop about "Trump's manufactured border crisis". Even though this has been happening for years, Liberals are trying to put 100% of the blame on Trump. You know, the President that declared a national emergency at the border and was called every name in the book because of it. Not only do Progressheviks do everything in their power to help and encourage tragedies like this, but then use dead women, men, and children as cheap props for political gain. Progressheviks and their gang of useful idiots are truly disgusting pieces of filth.

LOL.
 
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This is the Progressheviks' cost to change American society. Is this enough of a crisis now at the border? Useful idiot Libtards went on nonstop about "Trump's manufactured border crisis". Even though this has been happening for years, Liberals are trying to put 100% of the blame on Trump. You know, the President that declared a national emergency at the border and was called every name in the book because of it. Not only do Progressheviks do everything in their power to help and encourage tragedies like this, but then use dead women, men, and children as cheap props for political gain. Progressheviks and their gang of useful idiots are truly disgusting pieces of filth.

Jackass
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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This is the Progressheviks' cost to change American society. Is this enough of a crisis now at the border? Useful idiot Libtards went on nonstop about "Trump's manufactured border crisis". Even though this has been happening for years, Liberals are trying to put 100% of the blame on Trump. You know, the President that declared a national emergency at the border and was called every name in the book because of it. Not only do Progressheviks do everything in their power to help and encourage tragedies like this, but then use dead women, men, and children as cheap props for political gain. Progressheviks and their gang of useful idiots are truly disgusting pieces of filth.
Like your name you are completely full of shit.

You guys were totally on board opening borders from Cuba just to put a thumb in the eye of Castro. Even to the point of taking a son away of his father. When Obama left office we did not have a security crisis at the border and crossings were at a 50 year low. Your guy gets in and fucks things up and like him want to blame others.

You are barely able to have an honest conversation with yourself.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Its the same meme. Trump is Teflon and people surrounding him bear the brunt.

Started with Billy Bush
 

blackangst1

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According to the article, the family;y DID go to the US consulate, but is unclear what happened. Likely, they were put on the waiting list, and didnt have the patience so decided to put the family at risk and cross illegally. Tragic nonetheless.

At least border deaths arent as high as under Bush or Obama

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