a$$hats that run red lights

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Selfish. Most people are nowadays, so expect to keep seeing more of the behaviour. I'm mean enough to laugh a bit when I see one of these people get creamed when running a red light.

How is the guy who creams them going to prove they weren't already in the intersection? This is exactly how, and why they get away with it.

This is also exactly why I'm all for cameras at intersections, but the tin foil hat folks just won't hear of it! :|

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Selfish. Most people are nowadays, so expect to keep seeing more of the behaviour. I'm mean enough to laugh a bit when I see one of these people get creamed when running a red light.

How is the guy who creams them going to prove they weren't already in the intersection? This is exactly how, and why they get away with it.

This is also exactly why I'm all for cameras at intersections, but the tin foil hat folks just won't hear of it! :|

As soon as the city of Beaverton, OR (pop. 80,000) installed red light cams, they lowered the yellow light duration to 0.5 seconds at those intersections, despite a federal minimum of 1.8 seconds. Only an expose by a local news station got them to change back. They were also caught ticketing yellow-lighters as red-lighters.
Tin foil beanie my ass. It's all about the $$$ revenue!

The only possible effective way is to increase actual live police enforcement and to put up non-ticketing cameras, pointing down at the intersection only, that will record any accident that occurs. That way the victim can at least have a witness for him in court.

 

[Ornery]

This camera was a godsend. I wouldn't mind having them at every intersection! Cops can abuse their power with or without a camera. More cameras, not less, would help all the way around. Espcially if they're running in the patrol cars!

 

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: VicAs soon as the city of Beaverton, OR (pop. 80,000) installed red light cams, they lowered the yellow light duration to 0.5 seconds at those intersections, despite a federal minimum of 1.8 seconds. Only an expose by a local news station got them to change back. They were also caught ticketing yellow-lighters as red-lighters.
Tin foil beanie my ass. It's all about the $$$ revenue!

Greedy SOBs. I don't live anywhere near that city but I am glad the citizens were vindicated when the asshats were busted.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: GoodDad
around here its expected that 3-4 cars will go after the light changes to red. They wont spend the money to put left turn lights up at a lot of the busy intersections, so everyone just deals with it.

Now if there is a left turn light, and some asshat runs it...I will still go when my light goes to green. If I happem to ram some asshat who was in too much of a hurry, oh well.

that's why in ontario the green light will flash indicating an advance green if there is no turn signal.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Selfish. Most people are nowadays, so expect to keep seeing more of the behaviour. I'm mean enough to laugh a bit when I see one of these people get creamed when running a red light.

How is the guy who creams them going to prove they weren't already in the intersection? This is exactly how, and why they get away with it.

This is also exactly why I'm all for cameras at intersections, but the tin foil hat folks just won't hear of it! :|

As soon as the city of Beaverton, OR (pop. 80,000) installed red light cams, they lowered the yellow light duration to 0.5 seconds at those intersections, despite a federal minimum of 1.8 seconds. Only an expose by a local news station got them to change back. They were also caught ticketing yellow-lighters as red-lighters.
Tin foil beanie my ass. It's all about the $$$ revenue!

The only possible effective way is to increase actual live police enforcement and to put up non-ticketing cameras, pointing down at the intersection only, that will record any accident that occurs. That way the victim can at least have a witness for him in court.

Yep. There was a big stink here in San Diego about the red light cameras. From what I've been told, they've been deactivated but they're still all over the place.

I saw some asshat run a red light the other day. He was sitting there for about 10 seonds after it changed to red, then deliberately ran the light.

The intersection he was at leads to a freeway on-ramp and intersects with a freeway off-ramp that is controlled by a light. In his defense, there was no one coming from the off-ramp, but he still couldn't wait for 10 fscking seconds for the light to change. :roll:

They really need to do something about the idiots who "block the box" when an intersection gets backed up. All you have to do is wait to see if there's enough room for you on the other side BEFORE you enter the intersection. I see this all the time especially downtown or at some of the busier intersections near a freeway entrance.

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: DAGTA
Selfish. Most people are nowadays, so expect to keep seeing more of the behaviour. I'm mean enough to laugh a bit when I see one of these people get creamed when running a red light.

How is the guy who creams them going to prove they weren't already in the intersection? This is exactly how, and why they get away with it.

This is also exactly why I'm all for cameras at intersections, but the tin foil hat folks just won't hear of it! :|

As soon as the city of Beaverton, OR (pop. 80,000) installed red light cams, they lowered the yellow light duration to 0.5 seconds at those intersections, despite a federal minimum of 1.8 seconds. Only an expose by a local news station got them to change back. They were also caught ticketing yellow-lighters as red-lighters.
Tin foil beanie my ass. It's all about the $$$ revenue!

The only possible effective way is to increase actual live police enforcement and to put up non-ticketing cameras, pointing down at the intersection only, that will record any accident that occurs. That way the victim can at least have a witness for him in court.

Yep. There was a big stink here in San Diego about the red light cameras. From what I've been told, they've been deactivated but they're still all over the place.

I saw some asshat run a red light the other day. He was sitting there for about 10 seonds after it changed to red, then deliberately ran the light.

The intersection he was at leads to a freeway on-ramp and intersects with a freeway off-ramp that is controlled by a light. In his defense, there was no one coming from the off-ramp, but he still couldn't wait for 10 fscking seconds for the light to change. :roll:

They really need to do something about the idiots who "block the box" when an intersection gets backed up. All you have to do is wait to see if there's enough room for you on the other side BEFORE you enter the intersection. I see this all the time especially downtown or at some of the busier intersections near a freeway entrance.

what i hate, and i see it happen all the time, is when i stop at a green light bc its full on the other side of the intersection and i dont want to "block the box", but then some ass will take a right on red and take whatever room is created.

 

[rh71]

people will do this when they want to complete their 90-degree turn... and that's agitating enough.

What gets me the most are the ones who don't stop at stop signs. I'm not talking about a full stop... but at least drop down to < 5 mph... some people roll right through them as if they are better than the rest of us. I'd like to swerve a beater in front of them and make them stop.

 

[memo]

What I hate is when people "block the box" and I trying to the turn left when I am already in the intersection waiting for the light to turn red or an opening so I can complete the turn. So then when it does turn red it takes the time for them to get out of the intersection before I can turn before anyone else can go. STUPID DRIVERS

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

Originally posted by: rh71
people will do this when they want to complete their 90-degree turn... and that's agitating enough.

What gets me the most are the ones who don't stop at stop signs. I'm not talking about a full stop... but at least drop down to < 5 mph... some people roll right through them as if they are better than the rest of us. I'd like to swerve a beater in front of them and make them stop.

Didn't you get the memo? All stop signs become optional past 3am

 

[nakedfrog]

Just a few weeks ago, I was driving home one evening, and pulled up to a red light with a sign on it saying "Under Consideration for Removal." Next to me was a truck (Toyota, I think) that was there when I pulled up. A few seconds later, a cop pulls into the lane to the left of me. I don't know if the guy in the truck just wasn't paying attention or what, but a few moments later, he decides to go ahead and go, light still red and all.
Cop immediately turns on his lights and pulls the truck over. I wait about 2 more seconds, light turns green, and I feel happy at having seen instant justice.