A GOP Congressman (Steve King) Just Made An Argument For White Supremacy On Live TV

[realibrad]

Which huge ships?

Zheng He

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_treasure_ship

There is a debate on the actual size of the ships, but at the time of the fleet, there was nothing close to it. It would be hundreds of years for another fleet to ever get as big as the treasure fleet of Zheng He.

Pretty amazing. Sadly, the Confucius isolationist took over China and they went from being a super power to forgotten.

 

[1prophet]

Asian's were the most advanced civilization for a very long period of time. Navigating the oceans in huge ships when "Westerners" were still clubbing each other and praying to the mountain gods.

And thanks to westerners blind greed they are there again.

 

[Subyman]

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Way to just pull something out of your ass.

Western world just weaponized it

 

[openwheel]

btw what are "sub groups"?????

 

[Jhhnn]

And thanks to westerners blind greed they are there again.

Or their own hard work & ingenuity more likely.

 

[openwheel]

yeah I don't think those skyscrapers are built by white guys from Iowa. More like "subgroups" from Hunan province.

 

[Knowing]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_pride

Black pride is a movement in response to dominant white cultures and ideologies that encourages black people to celebrate black culture and embrace their African heritage.[1] In the United States, it was a direct response to white racism especially during the Civil Rights Movement.[2] Related movements include black power,[2] black nationalism,[2] Black Panthers, Afrocentrism, and black supremacism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_pride

Gay pride or LGBT pride is the positive stance against discrimination and violence toward lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) people to promote their self-affirmation, dignity, equality rights, increase their visibility as a social group, build community, and celebrate sexual diversity and gender variance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_pride

In the United States, Asian pride (also spelled AZN pride) is a positive stance to being Asian American.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_pride

White pride is a motto primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations to signal racist or racialist viewpoints.
...
Anti-racist critics commonly argue that the idea of "white pride" is an attempt to provide a clean or more palatable public face for white supremacy or white separatism and that it is an appeal to a larger audience in hopes of inciting more widespread racial violence.

With the possible exception of LGBT, I am certain that for all of these groups I can find a collection of individuals taking "pride" to the point of violence against individuals in the outgroup.

If then, saying something that some supremacist or another has ever said makes you a supremacist and being labelled a supremacist ends any debate in victory for the accuser why don't we just skip straight to finding out why our opponents are racist? It will save a whole bunch of time actually having a dialogue and our failures to communicate might get so large that we finally get the race war that the supremacists want, and isn't that a good result for everyone involved?

(obvious implied sarc tag)

 

[werepossum]

Might be helpful if those decrying support for Western civilization would share which other cultures' achievements they find more significant.

 

[thraashman]

btw what are "sub groups"?????

Something a racist says when he knows the N-word and equivalent slurs would make him look bad.

 

[openwheel]

The moment a racist comes out in support against reverse racism. LOL

 

[soundforbjt]

I guess Steve King has a point. Like the Melania Trump speech shows when the white man can't create it they steal it from other "sub-groups"

Have you seen this tweet?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Your?

as opposed to drumpf's African-American

 

[twinrider1]

It's comical when someone with extreme beliefs thinks they're being sly. They're so far off the reservation they don't realize they still sound ridiculous.

 

[IronWing]

Might be helpful if those decrying support for Western civilization would share which other cultures' achievements they find more significant.

Chocolate. Your turn. :biggrin:

 

[cubby1223]

Chocolate. Your turn. :biggrin:

If you want to compare Swiss chocolate to other chocolates around the world, let's have that debate!

 

[cubby1223]

This topic of this thread is basically, anyone who seeks out racism in everything will complain about racism here.

The rest of us have been afforded the privilege of not having to pay attention to this drivel And I do enjoy this privilege very much, I prefer to keep it as it makes life so much more enjoyable not having to pay attention to other people.

 

[hal2kilo]

To paraphrase Art Linkletter, King and Gomert say the darndest things.

 

[pcgeek11]

From the OP's quote in his post:

Host Chris Hayes: “Than white people?”

King: “Than Western civilization itself. It’s rooted in western Europe, eastern Europe and the United States of America and every place where the footprint of Christianity settled the world. That’s all of Western civilization.”

The only person that mentioned "white people" was Hayes. There are lots of blacks, Asians, etc ... that are part of the "Western Civilization".

 

[werepossum]

Chocolate. Your turn. :biggrin:

Air conditioning - to keep chocolate from melting.

 

[agent00f]

Zheng He

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_treasure_ship

There is a debate on the actual size of the ships, but at the time of the fleet, there was nothing close to it. It would be hundreds of years for another fleet to ever get as big as the treasure fleet of Zheng He.

Pretty amazing. Sadly, the Confucius isolationist took over China and they went from being a super power to forgotten.

For most of human history the middle & far east were simply in a different league than europe. It wasn't until the age of colonialism that the latter forged ahead.

As a basis for comparison, the Mongols had a pretty hard time of it in china, and it only ever got easier the further they steamrolled west. If it wasn't for a couple timely coincidental deaths that turned their armies around, history would be completely different.

 

[woolfe9998]

With a field of vision narrow enough he's correct. Hell, with a field narrow enough you could make the argument for any subgroup of homo sapiens to be the most historically important, it just might be history that no one else gives a shit about. Africans could make the argument they're most important because that's where the species originated even though most of the continent is a shithole now. Modern day Mespotamians (Iraqis) could argue the same thing as the "cradle of civilization" even though large swathes of their territory are controlled by the completely uncivilized ISIS.

Yes, arguments can always be made. But there is a difference between those who bother to make the arguments and those who do not. I don't care which ethnicity we're talking about. It is at best counter-productive to argue over which cultural/ethnic group is superior in its contributions to human civilization. At worst it's incendiary, and serves no constructive purpose.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Air conditioning - to keep chocolate from melting.

hands down, my very favorite modern times invention. beats the piss out of the lightbulb.

 

[twinrider1]

King: “Than Western civilization itself. It’s rooted in western Europe, eastern Europe and the United States of America and every place where the footprint of Christianity settled the world. That’s all of Western civilization.”

Yea, Greece was a real backwater shit hole before Christianity settled in.

FFS, Steve King is a moron. He just had to pander to his constituents and tie Christianity into the mix. And in doing so ignores 1000s of years of inventions and discoveries.

 

[buckshot24]

Brother Emperus unfairly criticizing another brother in the Lord publicly. Tell me it ain't so.

 

[HomerJS]

From the OP's quote in his post:

Host Chris Hayes: “Than white people?”

King: “Than Western civilization itself. It’s rooted in western Europe, eastern Europe and the United States of America and every place where the footprint of Christianity settled the world. That’s all of Western civilization.”

The only person that mentioned "white people" was Hayes. There are lots of blacks, Asians, etc ... that are part of the "Western Civilization".

This is right out of the Lee Atwater playbook. Either you just refuse to read history or are pretending to be stupid. I'm giving you lots of credit here