A good example why being accused sucks

Zebo

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I've always thought revealing the accused limited thier right to a fair trial since right from the begining the public and jurors atuomatically assume guilt no matter if the party is guilty. IMO The accused of a crime/violation should be secret until actual conviction is obtained.. And here is an excellent reason for it... showing extorsion..

As some of you know my wife is a nurse and teaches nursing at a university. Well evidently there was a really poor instructor they wanted to get rid of. She had poor student evaluations, poor teaching evaluations and no research/conferences/university service at all. These are the three criteria is judged by when someone is slated to be accepted for tenure (which means almost a permanent professorship eventually moving to full professor). If you don't get tenure you are usually fired. Well this lady did'nt, and was not going to have her contract renewed next year (fired) so she filed a , baseless by all accounts, discrimmination suit. And the university did'nt want the heat caused by dragging this though the press and publicness of the trial so they caved and awarded tenure. Damn shame if you ask me. Mearly the employer being accused and the incompitent instructor got her way.

IMO this goes to show the power of accusal and how keeping a public lid on it would have given the university an opportunity to actually defend itself instead of caving.
 

Fausto

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Also a good example of why tenure sucks. Now this stupid bitch is going to be around for as long as she likes to impart her incompetence on the students. :|
 

Zebo

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:D I agree, however it still happens in private corps. Dominos pizza a few years back had to allow some of it's underserving franchisees keep it amid the controvery after a suit was filed. Discrimmination is wrong but if you can't even defend a baseless charge for fear of PR reprocusions thats wrong too. And gives a blank check to incompitance and baseless accusations. My wife is pissed... She's constantly on unpaid faculty senate, goes to conferences, gets great evals... she's like why should I? When my turn comes up I'll file too... (she's joking of course but just making the point)
 
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You may have thought it was baseless; that doesn't mean it was.

Then again, you've got no problem accusing GW Bush of anything you can think of, so I guess that makes you a...
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You may have thought it was baseless; that doesn't mean it was.

Then again, you've got no problem accusing GW Bush of anything you can think of, so I guess that makes you a...
Oh, man I hate unnamed charges. I know you're guilty of something, Zebo, I just don't know what. I got a feeling it's real bad though.

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You may have thought it was baseless; that doesn't mean it was.

Then again, you've got no problem accusing GW Bush of anything you can think of, so I guess that makes you a...
Oh, man I hate unnamed charges. I know you're guilty of something, Zebo, I just don't know what. I got a feeling it's real bad though.
There's little doubt as to what HOP is guilty of, however. He's just lucky that chronic stupidity and obstinance aren't addressed in the Patriot Act.

 

Nitemare

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Can't fire them, so let's promote them
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DaiShan

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
You may have thought it was baseless; that doesn't mean it was.

Then again, you've got no problem accusing GW Bush of anything you can think of, so I guess that makes you a...
Oh, man I hate unnamed charges. I know you're guilty of something, Zebo, I just don't know what. I got a feeling it's real bad though.

I heard he eats babies...
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Nitemare
Can't fire them, so let's promote them
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Yup, that's actually an old method of dealing with these tricky situations. Except, you'd create a new position that didn't really do anything, promote the person you can't fire, then they are outta the way and you don't need to worry about them. Only really works in a large corp.