A Gentleman's Guide To Sex In Prison

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He contradicts himself almost immediately on prison rape:

I can speak only for myself, but in my own time in the New York State system, I rarely saw or even heard about non-consensual sex between men.
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But more common, from what I could see, was an older prisoner taking a young and inexperienced kid under his wing. Most often, this kid has no money and likes to get high; there are many such people in prison, and they tend to burn their bridges early and totally. And so the older man, who has usually already served major time, feeds the kid, and gets him a little something to smoke or snort. Now the kid has become a "fish." They start working out together, then showering together, then there is a massage, and finally, the kid is asked to "help" the older guy out. He's "no homo," but he has needs...

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In any case, very few bugarons—at least not the ones I personally came across or heard about—operate by force.
Maybe it isn't violent, but it all sounds rather non-consensual - rape by coercion.
 

Newell Steamer

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This is the greatest article I have ever read in my entire life.

A friend of mine once made me visualize the rivers of semen that have been flushed away down prison toilets.

Further more, the honesty of what actually goes on, is testament to the human condition on:
- how desperate we can get (lotions, that makeshift towel-thing, etc.)
- how we embellish things (butt rape happens in prison!!!!shift+!!! Like, ALL the time!! Oh, and the hot nurse totally did me everyday while in prison for the past 20 years,...)
- how low we can sink (fooling new young prisoners into becoming flesh holes)
 

JulesMaximus

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See this article is the sort of thing I think would be completely unnecessary, as men would generally figure most of this out for themselves, given endless days and hours to contemplate their situation and needs.
 

Mai72

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Has anyone read "A Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl? He was a Jewish prisoner in the concentration camps during WWII. He talked about sex in those camps, and he stated that he never saw a sexual act. I guess when you're denied food and a decent place to sleep, thinking about sex is secondary. He was a prisoner for over 4 years!
 

Nebor

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I find it interesting that someone capable of writing so well (indicative of a good education) would be in prison on armed robbery charges.
 

Fritzo

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Perknose

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I'd take solitary thanks.

Not in NY you wouldn't! :cool:

Consensual sex between incarcerated men happens all the time. There are rules against it, as it is considered an "unhygienic act," and you can go to the Special Housing Unit (aka the Box) for it. Which is ironic, because then you will be locked in a room with another man for 24 hours of the day, with barely any supervision. Solitary, at least in New York State, is not solitary at all but á deux, as it is cheaper to house men this way. If ever there was a venue for either forcible or consensual sex between men, it is therein provided.
 

JEDIYoda

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I would say that when you are taken to prison that if you keep it well lubricated, things will always go easier than if you fight it....
 
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alzan

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So no one is going to talk about the rolled up towel sex toy? So we are all just going to pretend we never tried it huh? Alright we'll play that game.

Rolled up towel sex toy? Dang, I never thought of that.

Back after a while...
 

radhak

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I find it interesting that someone capable of writing so well (indicative of a good education) would be in prison on armed robbery charges.

Daniel Genis is the epitome of fluctuating fortunes.

With good education and upper-middle class family, he was set in life, but got hooked to drugs, owed some thug money, robbed some old ladies (always apologetic about it) and paid off the thug, cleaned himself of addiction, but was recognized by one of his victims much later, and jailed for 10 years.

He writes well because he read a lot - in prison - and even has a complete novel out.

I like his matter-of-fact look at life and things.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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There ain't nothing gay about getting your dick sucked! You're the ones that're gay for sucking my dick!

In fact, it creeps me out just being around you fags! Alright, get down on your knees and open your mouths.
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dmcowen674

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SunnyD
I'd take solitary thanks.

Not in NY you wouldn't! :cool:

Quote:
Consensual sex between incarcerated men happens all the time. There are rules against it, as it is considered an "unhygienic act," and you can go to the Special Housing Unit (aka the Box) for it. Which is ironic, because then you will be locked in a room with another man for 24 hours of the day, with barely any supervision. Solitary, at least in New York State, is not solitary at all but á deux, as it is cheaper to house men this way. If ever there was a venue for either forcible or consensual sex between men, it is therein provided.

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Georgia does it the same way
 

Sonikku

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It's comforting to know at least that if you declare yourself that they actually have different prisons to accommodate different people instead of a brutal "one size fits all" type where certain people would have a truly horrible experience.
 

Markbnj

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robbed some old ladies (always apologetic about it)

Well, as long as he's apologetic about it. He did his time, so he's entitled to be out and about and to write and pursue literary celebrity. And I am entitled to continue to think anyone who would use a weapon to rob another human, especially an elderly one, of their possessions is a giant quivering douchebag, regardless of how long they spent in prison for it.
 

Thump553

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Well, as long as he's apologetic about it. He did his time, so he's entitled to be out and about and to write and pursue literary celebrity. And I am entitled to continue to think anyone who would use a weapon to rob another human, especially an elderly one, of their possessions is a giant quivering douchebag, regardless of how long they spent in prison for it.

That's mighty christian of you.
 
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Interesting article. That aluminum foil inside a "fifi" sure seems sadomasochistic...
Is that specific prisoner(the owner) used to a woman with a crusty vagina ?
I am trying very hard here to keep the visualization off. o_O
 
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