A general discussion on personal attacks in P&N

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: apoppin
Finally, Fern, i took a look at your link and it IS a moderated forum ... -snip-

Umm, I never gave a link,

:laugh:

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: apoppin
Perhaps we should ask the regulars in P&N what they want?
--a stickied thread in P&N

Completely unmoderated might not be a good idea ... or maybe it is

I think the moderating should continue.

It's annoying as hell to scroll through pages and pages of personal insults with a bunch of nested quotes. If I was a mod I'd just delete these wastes of space-type posts.

Some people in P&N are looking for content and reasonable debate.

The freer use of profanity makes the personal attacks seem much harsher and more offensive, IMO.

There will always be personal attacks, I believe. Let's just make sure the more flagrant offenses are moderated (Mod deleted/edited posts would be my choice, I'm not big on vacations or bans for these type of occasional offences).

And let's encourage the Mods who participate in P&N to try and lead by good example.

Fern

We have been, in fact myself, Perknose, Hayabusa Rider and Rio Rebel have been model members when we post over there.

LOL.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Fern

Originally posted by: apoppin
Perhaps we should ask the regulars in P&N what they want?
--a stickied thread in P&N

Completely unmoderated might not be a good idea ... or maybe it is

I think the moderating should continue.

It's annoying as hell to scroll through pages and pages of personal insults with a bunch of nested quotes. If I was a mod I'd just delete these wastes of space-type posts.

Some people in P&N are looking for content and reasonable debate.

The freer use of profanity makes the personal attacks seem much harsher and more offensive, IMO.

There will always be personal attacks, I believe. Let's just make sure the more flagrant offenses are moderated (Mod deleted/edited posts would be my choice, I'm not big on vacations or bans for these type of occasional offences).

And let's encourage the Mods who participate in P&N to try and lead by good example.

Fern

We have been, in fact myself, Perknose, Hayabusa Rider and Rio Rebel have been model members when we post over there.

LOL.

Again Fish, have an example to the contrary?

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: apoppin
... i am talking about creating still another "anything goes hell forum" that is completely unrestricted, has a digital disclaimer and age requirement and is ALSO OK for banned members - after all, even banned members need love
--and also have dollars to spend on sponsored products.

As good of an idea that might seem, I have a feeling that an "anything goes" forum catering to banned posters and other freaks would quickly become filled with thinly-veiled links to Lastmeasure, various goatse pics, various sites with embedded 0-day trojans, and other nonsense.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

I've always looked at the P&N forum as being a bare knuckles affair. You're going to get hit. That said, I like the idea of backing down from the Marquis of Queensbury rules that run the other forums and allow a more relaxed MMA type debate.

You can't have anarchy... a certain amount of order is necessary to move the debate along... but I don't think you can moderate that particular forum like you would OT or L&R.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I've always looked at the P&N forum as being a bare knuckles affair. You're going to get hit. That said, I like the idea of backing down from the Marquis of Queensbury rules that run the other forums and allow a more relaxed MMA type debate.

You can't have anarchy... a certain amount of order is necessary to move the debate along... but I don't think you can moderate that particular forum like you would OT or L&R.

I once made an OT thread that 'de-generated' into P&N. The mods moved it and I took it where it hurts.

IMO all swearing should not be tolerated, just like the Pastor said in the other thread. Swearing is not a necessary part of communication. :light:

As for the personal attacks, it's debatable. You can degrade someone pretty good using just basic english and non-swear words. It's sometimes hard to tell if something is actually an attack. That's where we need some skilled mods like DrPizza.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
I've always looked at the P&N forum as being a bare knuckles affair. You're going to get hit. That said, I like the idea of backing down from the Marquis of Queensbury rules that run the other forums and allow a more relaxed MMA type debate.

You can't have anarchy... a certain amount of order is necessary to move the debate along... but I don't think you can moderate that particular forum like you would OT or L&R.

I once made an OT thread that 'de-generated' into P&N. The mods moved it and I took it where it hurts.

IMO all swearing should not be tolerated, just like the Pastor said in the other thread. Swearing is not a necessary part of communication. :light:

As for the personal attacks, it's debatable. You can degrade someone pretty good using just basic english and non-swear words. It's sometimes hard to tell if something is actually an attack. That's where we need some skilled mods like DrPizza.

You made a thread about a resort in Cuba, and then baited people by saying you would rather live there than the USA if you had to choose between the 2.

To be honest, I think I would rather be a Communist than live under Bush's rule.

Apparently 99% of what you hear about Cuba here is generated by right-wing extremists in Miami. I guess they have a right to be upset; I'm assuming that they are the former 'Bourgeoisie' of Cuba that had their mansions and such expropriated. That said, they are spreading FUD that is nonsense.

In Cuba I could live with a cleaner conscience than I could in the US.

You left yourself wide open with comments like these.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Sinsear
You left yourself wide open with comments like these.

So now not only have I been degraded, but I get to re-live the experience. *applause*

:roll:

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

A few of us tried to lobby to have P&N cleaned up a few years ago, since it always tends to descend into an inferno of flames, but at that time the mods indicated they weren't interested, and they may have been right - it's probably impossible to enforce without gutting the discussion. Too bad.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Sinsear
You left yourself wide open with comments like these.

So now not only have I been degraded, but I get to re-live the experience. *applause*

:roll:

WELL you know what they say about the truth...lolol

 

[ProfJohn]

This is the kind of crap that should be stopped by the MODS.
Does not even address the issue at hand.

It's from the thread about the drop in poverty rates.

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Amazing how a thread can have no responses but have a rating of ?zero?

Bunch of cowards running scoring threads a zero but not having the balls to comment in the thread.

Awwwwww poor baby. Did we hurt your feelings by rating your thread low? Do you need a hug? Do you want to me to create the inevitable thread in Forum Issues for you to cry about how people are hurting your feelings? While you use the same personal attacks that you cry about?

You got some nerve. Before anybody even replied you started with the name calling and then a few of your buddies joined in before anybody made a post contesting your OP.

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn

 

[EagleKeeper]

If you are going to bait the hook, you should expect some fish to strike.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Dave, in his typical douchebag fashion, blames Bush for something the Democrats in congress just recently passed.

Anybody want a buck? Dave seems to passing them around freely.

Dave, you are a partisan hack, a troll, and should be banned.

Show me where I blamed Bush here.

In fact I cleared this post with a Mod before I posted it.

...

What took the Bush Administration so long to say something about this?

Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Chief Douchebag here

I can't even clear posts with Mods without getting slammed in their anymore.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Dave, in his typical douchebag fashion, blames Bush for something the Democrats in congress just recently passed.

Anybody want a buck? Dave seems to passing them around freely.

Dave, you are a partisan hack, a troll, and should be banned.

Show me where I blamed Bush here.

In fact I cleared this post with a Mod before I posted it.

...

What took the Bush Administration so long to say something about this?

Your stupidity knows no bounds.

Chief Douchebag here

I can't even clear posts with Mods without getting slammed in their anymore.

I've had issues with BoberFett as well. It's probably worth looking into using the 'block' feature on him. :light:

I wonder who he *really* is and why he hates 'the left' so much. :Q

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
This is the kind of crap that should be stopped by the MODS.
Does not even address the issue at hand.

It's from the thread about the drop in poverty rates.

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Amazing how a thread can have no responses but have a rating of ?zero?

Bunch of cowards running scoring threads a zero but not having the balls to comment in the thread.

Awwwwww poor baby. Did we hurt your feelings by rating your thread low? Do you need a hug? Do you want to me to create the inevitable thread in Forum Issues for you to cry about how people are hurting your feelings? While you use the same personal attacks that you cry about?

You got some nerve. Before anybody even replied you started with the name calling and then a few of your buddies joined in before anybody made a post contesting your OP.

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn

And just who in particular was I calling names?

How is what I said a ?personal? attack on anyone when I named no names.

As for what other people said: I have no control over that, if they crossed the line then take it up with them.

I think there is a difference between calling anonymous users who go around rating everything a ?zero? without ever posting the threads cowards and specifically responding to ONE person with crap like clifonite posted.

 

[EagleKeeper]

PJ:

You painted a target on you by using the word coward

 

[SickBeast]

Is ProfJohn even a professor of any sort?

If he's not, it totally reminds me of when George on Seinfeld told a girl he was an architect.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Is ProfJohn even a professor of any sort?

If he's not, it totally reminds me of when George on Seinfeld told a girl he was an architect.

Art Vandalay?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Is ProfJohn even a professor of any sort?

If he's not, it totally reminds me of when George on Seinfeld told a girl he was an architect.

I thought he told her he was a Marine Biologist.

I thought he told her he was a proctologist, with men being his specialty. :laugh:

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Is ProfJohn even a professor of any sort?

If he's not, it totally reminds me of when George on Seinfeld told a girl he was an architect.

I thought he told her he was a Marine Biologist.

I thought he told her he was a proctologist, with men being his specialty. :laugh:

He's not saying anything.

:beer:

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
This is the kind of crap that should be stopped by the MODS.
Does not even address the issue at hand.

It's from the thread about the drop in poverty rates.

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Amazing how a thread can have no responses but have a rating of ?zero?

Bunch of cowards running scoring threads a zero but not having the balls to comment in the thread.

Awwwwww poor baby. Did we hurt your feelings by rating your thread low? Do you need a hug? Do you want to me to create the inevitable thread in Forum Issues for you to cry about how people are hurting your feelings? While you use the same personal attacks that you cry about?

You got some nerve. Before anybody even replied you started with the name calling and then a few of your buddies joined in before anybody made a post contesting your OP.

Anandtech Senior Moderator
Red Dawn

And just who in particular was I calling names?

How is what I said a ?personal? attack on anyone when I named no names.

As for what other people said: I have no control over that, if they crossed the line then take it up with them.

I think there is a difference between calling anonymous users who go around rating everything a ?zero? without ever posting the threads cowards and specifically responding to ONE person with crap like clifonite posted.

If you dont like the way the forums are being moderated perhaps you should stop posting?

 

[Gaard]

It's pretty comical to see someone crying about being called names and at the same time trolling in threads. link