A fully loaded 747 Hijacked Jumbo jet is shot down down by Fighter planes..

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sao123

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Qianglong
Originally posted by: FoBoT
it really depends, but remember that when the space shuttle challenger "Blew up" , they later determined that some of the astronauts were not killed until the passenger capsule hit the water

so i would say that in most cases, some people live to fall to the ground. then the sudden stop/impact does them in

!!! what do you mean by that? the cockpit section didn't blow up together with the shuttle and they were full alive?

yeah, the part with the crew sits up on top and it got "shot" or blown off the rest of the shuttle when is exploded. most or all of them lived until the hit the ocean


There was an excellent documentary on the about the challenger accident on tv in July...
"National Geographic - Challenger, The Untold Story"... and the documentary on the Columbia accident will air on National Geographic Channel this Saturday (Seconds from Disaster - Columbia's Last Flight) at 3pm.
 

Amused

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Air to air missiles are not designed to blow a plane out of the air. Simply to make it unflyable and crash.

It would hit one of the engines, blow a wing off, and the plane would crash.
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: Qianglong
Or some unlucky people will have to wait until they hit the ground?

Is there any powerful Air to Air missile that can take out the whole plane at once or multiple fighters fire several missiles at once?

any AA missile in the US Inventory will bring down a 747 in 1 shot...
most of our warheads are not just explosives but what they call "expanding ring" which is a giant metal loop that is designed to cut whatever it reaches into pieces...
so basically when an AAMRAAM detonates it doesn't hit the target... it detonates close to the target usually on the side and then the ring cuts the aircraft in half or tears a wing off etc..

 

randay

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Qianglong
Or some unlucky people will have to wait until they hit the ground?

Is there any powerful Air to Air missile that can take out the whole plane at once or multiple fighters fire several missiles at once?

any AA missile in the US Inventory will bring down a 747 in 1 shot...
most of our warheads are not just explosives but what they call "expanding ring" which is a giant metal loop that is designed to cut whatever it reaches into pieces...
so basically when an AAMRAAM detonates it doesn't hit the target... it detonates close to the target usually on the side and then the ring cuts the aircraft in half or tears a wing off etc..

Like putting too much air in a balloon!!
 

jtvang125

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Qianglong
Or some unlucky people will have to wait until they hit the ground?

Is there any powerful Air to Air missile that can take out the whole plane at once or multiple fighters fire several missiles at once?

any AA missile in the US Inventory will bring down a 747 in 1 shot...
most of our warheads are not just explosives but what they call "expanding ring" which is a giant metal loop that is designed to cut whatever it reaches into pieces...
so basically when an AAMRAAM detonates it doesn't hit the target... it detonates close to the target usually on the side and then the ring cuts the aircraft in half or tears a wing off etc..

Can you reference where there's a "ring" in the AIM-120 missile cause I never remember reading anything about it.
 
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Hehe actually I was going to post it earlier since it was an airliner downed, but remembered that it was surface-to-air and not air-to-air :p
 

ta8689

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: foghorn67
Heat seaking missles will probably go after one of the engines. It's only about a 20-25 lb. warhead, and it doesn't explode on impact like a shape charge. They explode many yards out to ensure that shrapnel reaches an engine part or something vital. Most passengers might make it until the crash.

assuming the airframe isn't so damaged that it can't be controlled, a skilled pilot might be able to glide the thing in to a somewhat gentle landing.

heck, there was an avianca flight that ran out of fuel while in holding pattern for JFK, and the pilot brought the plane down and it would have been pretty safe except it hit a rock outcropping on long island.

assuming that somehow none of the hydrolic lines were destroyed, maybe 1 in 1000 chance
 

CVSiN

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Originally posted by: jtvang125
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Qianglong
Or some unlucky people will have to wait until they hit the ground?

Is there any powerful Air to Air missile that can take out the whole plane at once or multiple fighters fire several missiles at once?

any AA missile in the US Inventory will bring down a 747 in 1 shot...
most of our warheads are not just explosives but what they call "expanding ring" which is a giant metal loop that is designed to cut whatever it reaches into pieces...
so basically when an AAMRAAM detonates it doesn't hit the target... it detonates close to the target usually on the side and then the ring cuts the aircraft in half or tears a wing off etc..

Can you reference where there's a "ring" in the AIM-120 missile cause I never remember reading anything about it.

United States Navy Aviation Ordinance men 3rd class rating exam manual under AA missles