A Football question

Lyfer

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What if someone fumbles the ball into the end zone and it rolls out of bounds. Is it a TD?
 

gistech1978

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Originally posted by: Lyfer
What if someone fumbles the ball into the end zone and it rolls out of bounds. Is it a TD?

you cant fumble in the endzone. once it crosses the plane of the goalline its a TD
if he has control of the ball when he crosses, if not its a touchback for the other team, i believe.
 

MazerRackham

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Depends which end zone it is... if it's the defense's endzone, then it would be a safety (2 points for defensive team). If it was the offense's endzone, then it I'm not sure... maybe it would be a TD?
 

Lyfer

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Its not his end zone though, its the opponents. He was running towards the end zone and the ball dropped and rolled into the endzone (then out of bounds).


 

waylman

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yeah, if it is the offenses endzone what happens? Say someone fumbles it on the 1, it rolls through the end zone and out of bounds? It's not a TD, thats for sure.
 

gistech1978

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Originally posted by: Lyfer
Its not his end zone though, its the opponents. He was running towards the end zone and the ball dropped and rolled into the endzone (then out of bounds).

its not a safety, its basically the same as if a defensive back intercepted in the endzone. its a touchback if kneels, gets tackled or runs OB. why is this any different?
 

TheNinja

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I'd ask Tiki Barber, the law of averages says he has probably done it so I'm sure he knows ;)
 

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Originally posted by: Lyfer
Its not his end zone though, its the opponents. He was running towards the end zone and the ball dropped and rolled into the endzone (then out of bounds).


If it is the opponent's endzone, it is a touchback.... The ball goes to the 20 yard line...

If it's their own endzone, it is an automatic safety...
 

Mr N8

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Originally posted by: MazerRackham
Depends which end zone it is... if it's the defense's endzone, then it would be a safety (2 points for defensive team). If it was the offense's endzone, then it I'm not sure... maybe it would be a TD?

Actually, the offense is trying to get to the defenses endzone. :) If the offense fumbles in the defenses endzone they have already scored.
 

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Originally posted by: MazerRackham
Depends which end zone it is... if it's the defense's endzone, then it would be a safety (2 points for defensive team). If it was the offense's endzone, then it I'm not sure... maybe it would be a TD?

I remember in Super Bowl XXVII where Leon Lett fumbled the ball before reaching the endzone, ball went out of bounds in the back of the endzone, Buffalo was given the ball, but don't remember where it was placed for them... I think it was on their 20 yard line.
 

shenaniganz

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if the fumble occurs before the ball crosses the plane then into the endzone and out of bounds in the opposing team's endzone it is a safety for the other team, i think culpepper did it last year. correct me if i'm wrong someone, but i think it is also a safety if you fumble it out of your own endzone.
 

konichiwa

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Touchback:

3. A fumble that goes forward and out of bounds will return to the fumbling team at the spot of the fumble unless the ball goes out of bounds in the opponent?s end zone. In this case, it is a touchback.
 

NightRaven

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Originally posted by: RedRooster
I thought you can't fumble the ball forwards?

Correct, not if it is in favor of the offense. If officials feel the ball was 'intentionally' fumbled forward, and the offense recovers it, they can mark the ball at the point of which the fumble occured...

 

Argo

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If you fumble it into your own endzone - safety. Opponents endzone - touchback and their ball.

I had another question though. What if the defender intercepts a pass and immediately steps out of bounds in the endzone? According to football rules "he was in posession of the ball when he stepped out of bounds in his own endzone" and therefore it should be safety. However, I believe they always call it touchback.
 

gistech1978

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Originally posted by: RedRooster
I thought you can't fumble the ball forwards?

you can fumble fowards... you cant advance it, though.
like if a RB is getting tackled and purposely fumbles the ball forward 5 yards OB.
 

TC2181

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Originally posted by: Argo
If you fumble it into your own endzone - safety. Opponents endzone - touchback and their ball.

I had another question though. What if the defender intercepts a pass and immediately steps out of bounds in the endzone? According to football rules "he was in posession of the ball when he stepped out of bounds in his own endzone" and therefore it should be safety. However, I believe they always call it touchback.

It would be a touchback, or a touchdown. Depends on whose endzone he intercepts the ball in.
 

Coquito

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Originally posted by: Argo
If you fumble it into your own endzone - safety. Opponents endzone - touchback and their ball.

I had another question though. What if the defender intercepts a pass and immediately steps out of bounds in the endzone? According to football rules "he was in posession of the ball when he stepped out of bounds in his own endzone" and therefore it should be safety. However, I believe they always call it touchback.


as long as he didn't leave the endzone, it's a touchback
 

Hector13

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Originally posted by: Lyfer
What if someone fumbles the ball into the end zone and it rolls out of bounds. Is it a TD?

it just happened now in the niners vs. eagles game. Pinkston caught a pass and had the ball knocked out right before making it into the endzone. The play was called a TD, but the 49ers are challenging.

update: play was overturned and, by rule, it is a touchback.
 

tm37

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Originally posted by: NightRaven
Originally posted by: RedRooster
I thought you can't fumble the ball forwards?

Correct, not if it is in favor of the offense. If officials feel the ball was 'intentionally' fumbled forward, and the offense recovers it, they can mark the ball at the point of which the fumble occured...

That rule only applies in the last few minutes of a game of half. Only the player that fumbled the ball can advance it. and if the ball rolls forward and is recovered it goes to 5the point of the fumble if in the last 2 minutes(I think its two minutes)

It is called the "holy Roller play" due to the fact the raiders beat the chargers in the last play with a fumble that rolled into the endzone and was opunced on by a raider giving them a touchdown.
 

Sid59

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Originally posted by: tm37
Originally posted by: NightRaven
Originally posted by: RedRooster
I thought you can't fumble the ball forwards?

Correct, not if it is in favor of the offense. If officials feel the ball was 'intentionally' fumbled forward, and the offense recovers it, they can mark the ball at the point of which the fumble occured...

That rule only applies in the last few minutes of a game of half. Only the player that fumbled the ball can advance it. and if the ball rolls forward and is recovered it goes to 5the point of the fumble if in the last 2 minutes(I think its two minutes)

It is called the "holy Roller play" due to the fact the raiders beat the chargers in the last play with a fumble that rolled into the endzone and was opunced on by a raider giving them a touchdown.

gotta love the Raiders.