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A football post: Agree with me about the Lions?

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Im going to make a statement. Perhaps a bold one. The general concensus is that a college team could never hang with a Pro team, no matter how bad they are. Still, im thinking that the Michigan Wolverine's offense (minus the QB) is better than the Detroit Lions offense. Who would you rather have? Az Hakim, Bill Shroeder and David Kircus, or Braylon Edwards, Jason Avant, and Steve Breaston? This is an easy one. Hell, you could even substitute a Carl Tabb in for Avant... Also, Shawn Bryson or Chris Perry? C'mon. You could call him Perry Sanders. Also, that UofM offensive line, or the Lions? Granted, the Lions offensive line is one of the best pass blocking units I have ever seen, but I bet Olandis 'I wish I was Cleveland' Gary, Shaun 'Pebo' Bryson, and Avon Cobourne could run better behind UofM's line.

What do you think?
 
Lions suck. But they're better than any college team IMO. BTW, did you notice that Detroit's #1 receiver last weekend was the guy on the Vikings that intercepted 3 passes? And that the Detroit defence allowed 10 points, but the offense allowed 14?
 
I don't think there is any way any college team could hang with any pro team. Just think about it, on Miami's championship team from a couple years ago, only 1/2 of the starters made it into the NFL. Now think about the Lions, every single one of their players was good enough in college to be drafted by a pro team (to cover my ass, yes I know about free agents, kids from Europe yadda yadda). Joey Harrington tore everyone in the NCAA a new asshole, what makes you thnik he couldn't light up the Michigan DBs the same way?
 
Im strictly talking about offense, not the whole team... Detroit's defense, as poor as they are, is much better than UofM's...
 
No Way...how long you been into football? You ever play?

how many a the current Wolverines are on the way to the NFL? Probably a handful considering the size of a ncaa roster..Playing in the NFL is no joke.

You also gotta factor in that Detroit has not had an easy schedule....
 
This was actually done, in the NFL early years..sometime in the 20's I believe. I'm not sure on the exact team, but I think it was the Chicago Cardinals. They played Notre Dame in an exhibition game, and spanked them bad. The NFL was kind of a joke back then, and everyone thought ND would win.
 
I heard this argument before when Miami was spanking everyone. People were saying that they could take the Bengals. There's no fvcking way even the best college team could beat the worst NFL team. It's not happening and to think so is (no offense) foolish.

Even so, let's assume great talent at this skill positions (QB, RB, WR) for a few minutes. You really think a college offensive line is going to have any success opening holes to run the ball in a pro defensive line? You think you'll be able to go outside with the speed of most NFL linebackers and db's? Do you think a college offensive line will be able to give their QB any semblance of protection against a pro D line? Conversely do you think a college D line would have any success against a NFL O line? Even the most mediocre QB would have plenty of time to just sit back and pick a college secondary apart. The run game wouldn't even be funny either.

Sorry, but it's not happening.
 
I believe the Best College team could beat the worst NFL team in one game, anything can happen in one game
However I'd bet if there were 100 games, the NFL team would win more than 90% of them.
 
umm.....to put it simply.....NO

No college team is better than any NFL team, period...not even close...nor has there been a college team that could beat an NFL team in the last 30+ years...period.......not even close.

Az-Hakim was a better Steve Breaston in college - Charles Rodgers, the Lions top receiver, is much better than Braylon Edwards, and the Michigan O-line, while solid, isn't as good/big/strong as the Lions O-lineman are...Harrington is way better than Navarre too.....now, Chris Perry might step in next year and be a good NFL running back, but Olandis Gary, who you seemingly like to rip on, has already been a 1000 yard rusher in the NFL - and don't forget James Stewart, who has been an all-pro NFL player, though he is currently injured.

The size/speed/strength difference is WAY too much from an NCAA team to an NFL team - any team. DB's in the NFL would, for the most part, lock up NCAA receivers like they were little kids - seriously, they would have trouble just getting off the line of scrimmage - I'm not saying the Michigan receivers aren't going to be good NFL players (actually only Edwards likely will - Breaston is, like I said, another Hakim-type player, more impact in the return game), but they aren't NFL players now, and without a few more years of working out and playing against NFL competition, they wouldn't stand a chance. Same goes for NCAA offensive lineman - Michigan has a big group, though no superstars, but they would be at a loss against the speed of an NFL pass rush. Navarre reading an NFL team's defenses? Good luck with that.

Oklahoma against an NFL team? Please - if Baylor can get for sacks against OU, what is an NFL team going to do? White wouldn't make it out of the first quarter.

Miami's (FL) offense last year is probably the most talented offensive unit, in terms of being pro-ready, that I've seen - if McKinney (vikings left tackle) had stayed for his Sr year and played on that team, I would at least grant you that team would be able to score some points against an NFL team - Andre Johnson, Kellen Winslow Jr, McGehee (healthy!), 4 NFL O lineman, but even that is questionable.
 
I'm a Lions fan. Who would I rather have? I'd rather have anything than Bill Schroeder starting at Receiver. I'd definitely rather have Chris Perry than Bryson or Gary, but he wouldn't fare much better than our current backs if Harrington is unable to throw the ball downfield to keep the defense from crowding the line of scrimmage.

Harrington -> Good enough smarts to be decent, lack of an NFL caliber arm will keep him from ever being great

O-Line -> Doesn't get much push off the ball, low sacks allowed number is deceptive - Harrington throws to his check down receivers too soon. If he stood in there and gave the play more time to develop, he would take more sacks, but maybe hit more big plays.

Receivers -> Zero seperation with the current starters. Rogers can be great, but needs to bulk up some. He just looks fragile. Hakim is a #3. Schroeder shouldn't even be playing. Kircus is a Div 2 kid.

Running Backs -> Someone else's retreads currently. Avon Cobourne is shifty, but slow. Artose Pinner might be good if he ever gets healthy.

Tight Ends -> Ricks drops way too many balls. Fitzsimmons seems solid.

There's just so many holes on this team. And yet I watch every Sunday.
 
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