A first step to Dialogue: We need eloquent conservative thought.

[Jhhnn]

I just find it funny that a liberal/progressive/Democrat like Jhhnn with no honor, no honesty and a total lack of integrity feels as if they can speak for conservatives, but refuses to speak for themselves.

I just know what I see & hear from conservatives. I also know you just went for the personal attack rather than address what I said, your usual.

 

[ivwshane]

Considering the bottom 50% of the country doesn't pay federal income taxes (and are actually a negative on tax income at that), it's kinda hard to lower their taxes further. Can you not see how the middle and upper middle class is pissed off that a bunch of whiners are asking for more? Try paying into the system for once instead of taking from the system.

Piss off the rich (the few that are actually paying into the system) and see how that goes. Try asking France how that went.

How is it going with France after they raised taxes on the rich? Was there ever a mass migration of the rich?




The answer is no, there wasn't a mass migration of the rich.

 

[agent00f]

They are different, not better. I saw your ideological elders, your superiors, regress into birds mimicking speech. Tear the nation apart and yell victory. That's what most are good for anyway.

^ Worth noting that in the context of this thread, this is what the less tardy conservatives actually think. Like they're somehow smart ones despite zero visible evidence of the claim.

To demonstrate the previous statement, these are the people they're looking to uphold as equal BothSides counterparts to the western enlightenment:

I just find it funny that a liberal/progressive/Democrat like Jhhnn with no honor, no honesty and a total lack of integrity feels as if they can speak for conservatives, but refuses to speak for themselves.

Did Obama actually listen to any conservatives for the last 8 years? Hell No.

Rage on, I agree. No one speaks for us. One side doesn't care about the less than rich and the other likes to climb a pedestal and pontificate about its virtues.

Sheeple indeed.

Considering that Obamacare was a cure that was worse than the sickness, conservatives probably have a hard time selling the original sickness.

 

[DarthKyrie]

It's kind of hard for the bottom half of the country to pay federal income taxes when they're poor.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

I just know what I see & hear from conservatives. I also know you just went for the personal attack rather than address what I said, your usual.

You are right, it was an unnecessary personal attack and I apologize for it.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I just find it funny that a liberal/progressive/Democrat like Jhhnn with no honor, no honesty and a total lack of integrity feels as if they can speak for conservatives, but refuses to speak for themselves.

You really should avoid using words that you have no understanding of. That would be words like "honor", "integrity" and "honesty".

 

[imported_tajmahal]

You really should avoid using words that you have no understanding of. That would be words like "honor", "integrity" and "honesty".

I do understand them, that's why I apologized to him.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I do understand them, that's why I apologized to him.

Fair enough. I just saw the apology.

 

[Majes]

I think by playing the false equivalency game as you do so well in this post, you give refuge and normalize the craziness of those on the right. You're argument is basically people shouldn't use their god given minds to decipher situations and should be slaves to the rhetoric that people use. This was a Muslim ban crafted to be legal.

You know it's not the crazies on the right that make me feel out country is fuxed. It's posts like yours above.

This response is exactly what concerns me. You see no value whatsoever in the opinions of the right, so much so in fact that when someone attempts to look at both sides openly you see them as a threat to the country. You've misrepresented my argument so completely that you believe the complete opposite of what I demonstrated in my post.