A fine example of Israeli censorship

[Slovin8]

To be more accurate, a video was initially censorshiped because it was "too damaging" to the IDE, but then an Israeli channel broadcasted it.

here is the video

Such videos would make it easily across europe and Canada, but I doubt it will hit Fox news any time soon.

One only wonders how many more such videos have been censored.

My 2 cents.

 

[gopunk]

for those of us who don't have real player, can you describe the video?

 

[pulse8]

Originally posted by: gopunk
for those of us who don't have real player, can you describe the video?

It's a series of color, moving images with dialogue over them.

 

[Bulk Beef]

It's an IDF porn video.

 

[Czar]

urrgg.. dont have realplayer

is it the one I read about few months ago? it shows the IDF entering a home of a Palestinian people, it was broadcasted once on an Israeli television station which was sortof normal according to the article they shows videos like that sometimes but always edited, except this one, it was not edited.

is it that one?

 

[Slovin8]

Czar, I'm not sure if entering the house of a Palestinian family by the IDF is something unique, and the video does not talk about the recency of the subject.

I'm bad at summerizing things, but basically, a wife of a palestinian man gets killed due to the indifference of the IDF. They show a young Palestinain girl begging the IDF not to break their home apart, but they do.

Then they show an Israeli spokesman who usually comments against Palestinain censorship and says "Israelis must practice self-censorship".

See the video yourself if you're that interested.

 

[AZGamer]

Here's the brief:

Arab guy outside Bethlehem hospital, grieveing after the Israeli's killed his wife with some sort of explosion in their home.


What happens in Refugee Camps is off limits to foreign reporters,his story of abuse by soldiers could not be confirmed; not to Israelis, shows the Hawaja (victim's home) where the Israelis blew off door and mortally wounded Mrs. Hawaja.

Husband thought wife could live, begged to army to let ambulance take her, they delayed. Daughter and Son shown being afraid. Soldiers say that they're doing purification. Another said they approve, it wasn't so bad. Soldiers looked for weapons in house.

A girl begged for her house not to be destroyed, but they refused.

This tape wasn't supposed to be shown, as Israeli networks understand the government can allow stuff not to be shown, and didn't want this to be shown. Army decided tape was too embarrasing, but channel 2 showed it anyway, army, government, citizens say that it shouldn't have been shown. After army tried in vain for damage control, then said soldiers went over the line. Army had nothing else to add, and this was front page news in Israel.

More proof for my sig:

 

[Czar]

Slovin8,
the unique thing about the video I'm talking about is that it was shown once on an Israeli television station unedited and never again.

I'll guess I'll install relplayer tomorrow and see if it fits the news article.

edt.
AZGamer,
I guess this is the video I'm talking about

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Slovin8
Czar, I'm not sure if entering the house of a Palestinian family by the IDF is something unique, and the video does not talk about the recency of the subject.

I'm bad at summerizing things, but basically, a wife of a palestinian man gets killed due to the indifference of the IDF. They show a young Palestinain girl begging the IDF not to break their home apart, but they do.

Then they show an Israeli spokesman who usually comments against Palestinain censorship and says "Israelis must practice self-censorship".

See the video yourself if you're that interested.

well:

1. i can't see the video because it is in real format... no further explanation should be necessary
2. i can't see the video, so i might be missing something, but in the past, videos publicized as an example of israeli brutality have later been "debunked" (for lack of a better term. "debunking" meaning more information comes to light, such as the circumstances under which the events shown on video occurred.

 

[Bulk Beef]

Ah, yes. I believe I saw this on CNN.

Man pleading with IDF soldiers to allow an ambulance to come to his house to help his injured wife.
Daughter crying. Older brother scolding his sister for crying in front of the camera and Israeli soldiers.

That one?

 

[Alphazero]

Originally posted by: AZGamer

More proof for my sig:

...

The Israelis are nothing but modern day barbarians!

As opposed to the poor old Palestinian martyrs who do a whole world of good by blowing up innocent schoolchildren?

 

[Slovin8]

gopunk: Well, it was aired by an Israeli channel, and then by CBC (Canadian Broadcast Corporation). I can't really talk more about the video, it is best to be seen.

Btw, did everyone see "Behind the Hatred" that was shown on Discovery Channel few days ago about the middle east conflict? It is the BEST and most neutral documentary on the issue that I have ever seen broadcasted in an American network. I have seen similar ones On BBC and European networks, but never before on an American one.

Don't miss it if they ever air it again.

 

[Slovin8]

As opposed to the poor old Palestinian martyrs who do a whole world of good by blowing up innocent schoolchildren?

A murder never justifies another.

 

[Alphazero]

Originally posted by: Slovin8

As opposed to the poor old Palestinian martyrs who do a whole world of good by blowing up innocent schoolchildren?

A murder never justifies another.

Well put. I wish just as much as anyone that this conflict could be solved without bloodshed. Unfortunately, there are many people, on both sides, who disagree. But even the more sane people accept that this business is not always pretty. Palestinian terrorists target Israeli civilians. The IDF goes after these terrorists, never civilians. The main problem is the extreme religious movements such as Islamic Jihad and Hamas, which carried out this morning's attack. There is no negotiating with these people. Any progress towards peace, even if mainstream Palestinians accept it, is met with more senseless killing. Preventing these attacks is usually accomplished by arresting these terrorists, but sometimes it comes to a choice: us or them. Your argument still holds, extrajudicial eliminations are fundamentally unjust, but I'd rather see the terrorist dead in such a situation, and not the schoolchildren we saw this morning.