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Not knocking it at all - just saying what it seems to be. It is not photography because what you are doing does not come out of the camera - it is art achieved after the fact. Is that not true?

Not saying there's anything wrong with it. I find it very interesting, that's all.
 
Originally posted by: corkyg
Not knocking it at all - just saying what it seems to be. It is not photography because what you are doing does not come out of the camera - it is art achieved after the fact. Is that not true?

Not saying there's anything wrong with it. I find it very interesting, that's all.

the same effects can be done in the darkroom with film

and while it may not be 'traditional' photography in its purist form, its still photography.

 
Originally posted by: corkyg
Not knocking it at all - just saying what it seems to be. It is not photography because what you are doing does not come out of the camera - it is art achieved after the fact. Is that not true?

Not saying there's anything wrong with it. I find it very interesting, that's all.

Well i wasn't claiming it to be "photography" in the purest sense, but I think its a combination of photography and art, but nearly everything is these days.

Not in ANY way comparing myself to him, but look at Ansel Adams. He is largely considered to be the one of the best photographers ever, however it is largely known that it wasn't solely the composition of the images that made him so famous, but he darkroom techniques for achieving the artistic quality he desired.

Also, i think your definition of photography is misguided IMO. Look at magazines, posters, etc... Nearly everything is "photoshopped" to some degree - whether or be adjusting levels, contrast, airbrushing, USM, etc... Would you not call a portrait of a beautiful model photography because they airbrushed out imperfections in her face? It wasn't there on 'film', but it ended up in the finished product.

Personally, I don't think you can separate photography from art. It's all a form of art, just with varying degrees of what is meant to look "realistic" and what isn't. I'm obviously going for the latter in these images.

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion on the subject, but in my opinion, I consider my work photography. It was a picture taken from a digital camera - manipulated on a computer.

Interesting discourse nevertheless...
 
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