A few comments about painting...with bonus action pic

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1) Should you ever feel that your house is too small...I suggest you prime all walls and ceilings, and then edge and repaint the entire thing two more times. Then revisit your thoughts about your house size.

2) Sprayers rule.
2.1) When they work.

3) While sprayers rule...they make a monumental mess and are a pain in the ass to clean.

4) When you are putting your sprayer together I advise not to have your wife drop a small gasket thingy for the spray gun that's the size of a skittle into a full five gallon bucket of paint.

5) When you grab a plastic bag to shroud your arm to fish out the above object please check first for holes in the bag.

6) Paint is messy. And it has a knack for dripping/spilling in the worst places at the most innoportune times.

7) When buying paint you will need 3x as much as you planned.

8) And you will spend 2x as much as you planned.

9) And it will take 4x as long as planned.

here's me 15 feet in the air on a scaffold keeping it real...
http://whlu4w.bay.livefilestore.com...txHfrvYFejITJe4-lh50LGcqq/IMG_4621.JPG?psid=1

height perspective:
http://whlu4w.bay.livefilestore.com...Dvw4c1kg2SsPF8mEg1Wl-I5Qu/IMG_4617.JPG?psid=1
 

Leros

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That's pretty awesome. After the 2x cost, did you end up saving money over hiring professionals?
 

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That's pretty awesome. After the 2x cost, did you end up saving money over hiring professionals?

Early estimate before the hole was even in the ground (building) was $4,000 to paint the place. I've got all the paint, primer, and a sprayer and painting materials bought for $2,000. Sprayer was $400 of that. I've put in three solid days absolutely busting my ass doing priming and ceilings. And I'm still only half way done. My wife has been following behind doing the edgeing and finish coats. So that's two of us hoofing it at 6 full days. And we're still only half done....And when I say busting my ass...that's not really breaking for lunch, no smoke breaks, and 10-12 hour days.

I don't think this job would have come in anywhere near $4,000 if I had it done by the pros. Maybe that just in labor. There's an insane amout of surface area to cover and it's on plaster so it just sucks up the paint as soon as it hits.
 

Greenman

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Why do you have the sprayer on the scaffolding?
Unless the house is huge, you should be able to spray it in two day's. If your masking and cutting in trim in what looks to be a new home, you're doing it wrong.
In a new house you shoot the ceilings and walls before trim and finish floors, then you let the carpenters trim it out. Once the trim is done you do all the brushwork and cut your walls up to the trim.
 

destrekor

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Why do you have the sprayer on the scaffolding?
Unless the house is huge, you should be able to spray it in two day's. If your masking and cutting in trim in what looks to be a new home, you're doing it wrong.
In a new house you shoot the ceilings and walls before trim and finish floors, then you let the carpenters trim it out. Once the trim is done you do all the brushwork and cut your walls up to the trim.

Look up his thread about his house. He has been keeping a journal of building progress, from first sketches to the digging to, well, now the paint.

He has a massive amount of walls to paint.

vi edit, I'm not jealous one bit.
I will be when it's all said and done, however. :p
 

Malak

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There is only one picture that could possibly be used in response to this:

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No shit. I'd rather get beaten with a baseball bat than to pick up a paint brush...

I've been helping an old friend around his farm, and a lot of the work's been painting. I F'n hate painting, and I've done a couple thousand feet of fence, a small building, a bunch of windows, and a door. It's boring, messy, and it kills my back. Worst work ever :^(
 

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Why do you have the sprayer on the scaffolding? Unless the house is huge, you should be able to spray it in two day's. If your masking and cutting in trim in what looks to be a new home, you're doing it wrong.

It's almost 25' up to the top of the ceiling. The hose I have is only 25'. I brought the sprayer up 10' to give me some extra wiggle room and so that I could tend the paint pail.

House is very large. 3200 sq/ft. Entry way is 25 ft tall. Two bedrooms has 14' tall vaulted ceilings. I had no lights until today so I had to cart around shop lights to see.

When you include the ceilings that's about 10,000 sq/ft. Add another 13,000 for two finish coats of color along with masking up all windows and now doors since the trim guys are in and that's just shy of 25,000 sq/ft that I have to handle. I've burned through 45 gallons of primer and 25 gallons of color paint at this point.

That's a lot of effin paint. And I still have close to another 15-20 gallons color paint to go up yet.
 

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Why do you have the sprayer on the scaffolding?
Unless the house is huge, you should be able to spray it in two day's. If your masking and cutting in trim in what looks to be a new home, you're doing it wrong.
In a new house you shoot the ceilings and walls before trim and finish floors, then you let the carpenters trim it out. Once the trim is done you do all the brushwork and cut your walls up to the trim.

What he said^^

Also a $4000 paint estimate on your house size is not to bad.
You souldnt expect to much out of a $400 paint sprayer.
You should've rented a professional sprayer or spent a little more when you bought yours.
If you're still spraying add at least another 25' of hose, a whip hose end and extension tip.
 

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What he said^^

Also a $4000 paint estimate on your house size is not to bad.
You souldnt expect to much out of a $400 paint sprayer.
You should've rented a professional sprayer or spent a little more when you bought yours.
If you're still spraying add at least another 25' of hose, a whip hose end and extension tip.

Yup. The right gear makes all the difference.
Letting the carpenters get ahead was the pivotal mistake. The job is now a repaint, not new construction. Depending on trim details, it might have been faster to use a power roller, no masking that way.
 

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I used to work as a painter. I liked new construction. We'd go in before the flooring was laid or any trim work was done. We could shoot an interior easily in a day.
There is only three times I'd use a sprayer because of the prep work.
New construction.
Acoustic (popcorn) ceiling.
Exteriors
Other than that, it takes too much prep to justify spraying.

Pro tip.
When using 5 gallon buckets of paint, you have to "box" the paint to mix it. That is, you pour it from one bucket to another. They make a sieve that looks like a giant sock to remove solids. Pour the paint through it to catch the solids. You could have used something like that to find the sprayer part.
 
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