A day of playing

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
Seriously, 5 minutes does not a stable overclock make.

Yep. The settings take 5 minutes to change but stability checking takes several hours. I've had overclocks that were prime stable for 1 or 2 hours, so it's stable enough to not crash right away but it's unstable enough to be... unstable. Piss poor 5 minute overclocks are why we get blog posts like this.

sup all wondering if i should go more and more OC

OC more. If you can get more performance and it's able to pass Prime and Linpack stability testing, why not?

 

[astrosfan315]

LMAO..with the title " A day of playing" I thought OC= OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE. As in, he spent all day playing all these different games and asked if he needed to get more compulsive. HAHA

 

[TridenT]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: TridenT

Originally posted by: SunnyD
It's pelu. English is NOT his/her first language.

The answer is - overclocking isn't for games. Overclocking is for the hell of it, unless you have a piss poor system that runs like shit and you need to squeeze every last drop of potential it has just in order to play your games... PERIOD.

If you find your games comfortable to play at their current level, there's no point in overclocking. Hell, if your games were comfortable at stock speeds, there was no point in overclocking... PERIOD.

What's comfortable for gaming? That's subjective. Some people say every single frame counts. Myself, I find that a load of bullshit. Of course I'm not much of a FPS gamer, where frame rates do translate to something a bit more, assuming you have a monitor that can handle high frame rates. Now on the other hand, if you're like a typical person right now and use an LCD, odds are overclocking is pointless because your LCD isn't going to give you more than 60 frames per second no matter what you do. Sure, you can turn off V-Sync, and that sends your frame rate through the roof. But you know what? Your monitor isn't going to show anything more than what it's rated for. Anything above and beyond will simply result in image tearing and fast but "apparently" choppy display of graphics. Now if you happen to be one of the few who have one of those magical 120hz LCD's... then well you're a little better off.

But all in all, if you're above 40FPS in the bulk of your gaming... I say to hell with overclocking. It's just not worth the effort.

"the effort?" You have to be joking... Overclocking your system takes less than five minutes. Only takes longer if you're doing really high OCs(Which requires testing like memtest86, or Orthos) or you don't know what you're doing...

I notice an improvement having my CPU go from 2.53Ghz to 3.8Ghz. :-/ I would notice an improvement if I oc'd my video cards but they are running hot enough as it is.

The effort of testing, ensuring stability and cooling, hell... the effort and price of buying higher end parts and making sure everything is working right.

Seriously, 5 minutes does not a stable overclock make. Otherwise we deal with the typical "Game X randomly crashes or App Z locks up the machine randomly". Yes, even with LOW overclocks. IMHO, unless you like to push the bleeding edge for no reason other than e-penis, there's no point unless you're trying to get something from unplayable to acceptable if possible.

lol... It didn't take me very long(One hour of tweaking at most and then I just ran Orthos for a 12 hours while doing other stuff) to get to a stable OC. The only reason I would ever not be able to get a good OC going was because the temps were too high... then I got a non-stock heatsink. 3.8Ghz was fast and easy to get to on a E7200. I didn't want to try 4.0Ghz because I knew that was too far.

 

[venkman]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
http://img204.imageshack.us/im...9279/1237933078055.jpg

god my head hurts after trying to read that

 

[Modular]

Originally posted by: venkman

Originally posted by: shortylickens
http://img204.imageshack.us/im...9279/1237933078055.jpg

god my head hurts after trying to read that

That post is magic

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: SunnyD
It's pelu. English is NOT his/her first language.

The answer is - overclocking isn't for games. Overclocking is for the hell of it, unless you have a piss poor system that runs like shit and you need to squeeze every last drop of potential it has just in order to play your games... PERIOD.

If you find your games comfortable to play at their current level, there's no point in overclocking. Hell, if your games were comfortable at stock speeds, there was no point in overclocking... PERIOD.

What's comfortable for gaming? That's subjective. Some people say every single frame counts. Myself, I find that a load of bullshit. Of course I'm not much of a FPS gamer, where frame rates do translate to something a bit more, assuming you have a monitor that can handle high frame rates. Now on the other hand, if you're like a typical person right now and use an LCD, odds are overclocking is pointless because your LCD isn't going to give you more than 60 frames per second no matter what you do. Sure, you can turn off V-Sync, and that sends your frame rate through the roof. But you know what? Your monitor isn't going to show anything more than what it's rated for. Anything above and beyond will simply result in image tearing and fast but "apparently" choppy display of graphics. Now if you happen to be one of the few who have one of those magical 120hz LCD's... then well you're a little better off.

But all in all, if you're above 40FPS in the bulk of your gaming... I say to hell with overclocking. It's just not worth the effort.

Acutally, the CPU is usually the bottleneck for MMORPGs.

 

[Sylvanas]

Originally posted by: Maximilian
Woo another makes no sense pelu thread lol.

 

[Pelu]

Originally posted by: fatpat268
Just curious, but what game is that with the WW2 fighter planes?

Battlestations Pacific... by the way it works fine with one gpu alone... somewhat better than two of them... at least Catalyst AI off is better with a 4870x2 lol

 

[Pelu]

Originally posted by: CKent

Originally posted by: SunnyD

But all in all, if you're above 40FPS in the bulk of your gaming... I say to hell with overclocking. It's just not worth the effort.

Acutally, the CPU is usually the bottleneck for MMORPGs.

and ram amount and bandwidth...

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: TridenT

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: TridenT

Originally posted by: SunnyD
It's pelu. English is NOT his/her first language.

The answer is - overclocking isn't for games. Overclocking is for the hell of it, unless you have a piss poor system that runs like shit and you need to squeeze every last drop of potential it has just in order to play your games... PERIOD.

If you find your games comfortable to play at their current level, there's no point in overclocking. Hell, if your games were comfortable at stock speeds, there was no point in overclocking... PERIOD.

What's comfortable for gaming? That's subjective. Some people say every single frame counts. Myself, I find that a load of bullshit. Of course I'm not much of a FPS gamer, where frame rates do translate to something a bit more, assuming you have a monitor that can handle high frame rates. Now on the other hand, if you're like a typical person right now and use an LCD, odds are overclocking is pointless because your LCD isn't going to give you more than 60 frames per second no matter what you do. Sure, you can turn off V-Sync, and that sends your frame rate through the roof. But you know what? Your monitor isn't going to show anything more than what it's rated for. Anything above and beyond will simply result in image tearing and fast but "apparently" choppy display of graphics. Now if you happen to be one of the few who have one of those magical 120hz LCD's... then well you're a little better off.

But all in all, if you're above 40FPS in the bulk of your gaming... I say to hell with overclocking. It's just not worth the effort.

"the effort?" You have to be joking... Overclocking your system takes less than five minutes. Only takes longer if you're doing really high OCs(Which requires testing like memtest86, or Orthos) or you don't know what you're doing...

I notice an improvement having my CPU go from 2.53Ghz to 3.8Ghz. :-/ I would notice an improvement if I oc'd my video cards but they are running hot enough as it is.

The effort of testing, ensuring stability and cooling, hell... the effort and price of buying higher end parts and making sure everything is working right.

Seriously, 5 minutes does not a stable overclock make. Otherwise we deal with the typical "Game X randomly crashes or App Z locks up the machine randomly". Yes, even with LOW overclocks. IMHO, unless you like to push the bleeding edge for no reason other than e-penis, there's no point unless you're trying to get something from unplayable to acceptable if possible.

lol... It didn't take me very long(One hour of tweaking at most and then I just ran Orthos for a 12 hours while doing other stuff) to get to a stable OC. The only reason I would ever not be able to get a good OC going was because the temps were too high... then I got a non-stock heatsink. 3.8Ghz was fast and easy to get to on a E7200. I didn't want to try 4.0Ghz because I knew that was too far.

You don't even have to run Orthos for 12h, I overclock through software until Orthos fails, then back off until I can get it stable for more than about 5 minutes, then back off 200mhz at the same voltage and I'm good to go. Sunny is lay-z that's all. It took me about 25 minutes to get my current rig at 3.5.

With my e2180 + IP35-E system I overclocked it to 3.4Ghz at which point it was exactly as fast as a Core 2 Extreme X6800 which, at the time, cost $1000 on newegg. I spent $80 on that chip. Anybody that doesn't want to spend 25 minutes to save $920 is ftooped.