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A crying boy begged his father not to call the police on a black man.

Viper1j

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The father did it anyway

Turns out he works for YouTube. You would think he would know better!


https://kmel.iheart.com/featured/sh...ee-calls-police-on-black-man-for-trespassing/

It's a shame when your child has more sense than you. A man being dubbed #DoorwayDan, who allegedly works for Youtube has gone viral after calling the police on a black man who he accused of trespassing in San Francisco.

He was waiting for his friend to arrive at her San Francisco condo when he was approached by a white man who believed he was "trespassing." The scenario was captured on video and shared on Facebook by software designer Wesly Michel, escalated to the point where the white man called the police while his young son begged him to stop.

On the Fourth of July, Michel entered his friend's building just as the white man, identified as Christopher Cukor by Essence, was exiting. Cukor, who believed Michel was trespassing, had asked for his friend's name and told him to call the person from the lobby's callbox to prove he was a guest of a resident. Michel started to film the encounter briefly before Cukor dialed 911.

The allegations alone were enough to go viral, but the accusers child is crying and begging his father to leave the black man alone yet the father ignored the pleas of his child. The victim stated he was there waiting for a friend whom lived in the building and was handicapped. Yet the man who the internet identified as allegedly, Chris Cukor - a Youtube employee, refused to take him at his word and demanded he show Id. When the victim refused Cukor then called the police! Unfortunately, Cukor was there with his child and resulted with his child having an emotional breakdown begging his father to not call the police and just walk away.]

Ironically, the victims friend shows up and Cukor was forced to eat his words. Cukor then attempts to scold Wesly for using curse words in front of his child. SMDH




https://www.cnn.com/profiles/amir-vera
 
that idiot is probably out of a job now.

kinda funny how the victim guessed right about the asshat working in IT.
 
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As soon as someone starts recording you in these scenarios, it's better just to walk away if you value your job. Or any potential jobs.
 
As soon as someone starts recording you in these scenarios, it's better just to walk away if you value your job. Or any potential jobs.

In a perfect world, CPS would take the kid.. If I were still in Ca. I might even make a phone call to file a complaint. Foster care will get that kid a better future.
 
"Its illegal now to call the cops on african americans"? lol what?

Also i didnt hear the guy swear so i wasnt sure why the white guy said to watch his language.

White douche got put in his place though in the end.
 
What a moron and a douche.

He warned you dumbass, and you did it anyway.

Sorry that the kid will have this as a defining life moment forever.
 
"Its illegal now to call the cops on african americans"? lol what?.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/04...ple-of-color-who-are-just-living-their-lives/

This city wants to make it illegal to call 911 on people of color who are just ‘living their lives’
There was barbecue on the grill and music on the stereo last June at Mulick Park in southeast Grand Rapids, Mich. Another class of students had graduated high school, and celebration was in the air. But as the party wrapped up, the sight of dark-blue squad cars sent a chill through the crowd.

Police officers told partygoers that neighbors had complained about the noise. But it was a Saturday afternoon, and the organizers had all the proper permits. Kimberly Shreve, who was there, had a different theory: The music wasn’t the problem for the disgruntled callers; it was that the attendees were mostly black.

That summer, the hashtag #LivingWhileBlack trended across social media as videos circulated of black Americans having the police called on them for doing innocuous things — cooking, napping, gardening and meeting at a Starbucks, to name a few. Attendees of the Mulick Park graduation party would later add their own experience to the list, another day they say was darkened by unnecessary interaction with law enforcement.

Although the police department said officers responded appropriately to a valid noise complaint, Grand Rapids leaders have pointed to the incident as a reason they need to regulate calls to 911 that amount to racial profiling. City lawmakers are considering a measure that would make it illegal to summon police on people of color who are, as one summary of the ordinance puts it, “participating in their lives.”


Lawmakers in Grand Rapids, a liberal stronghold amid a sea of conservative voters, joined state legislators in New York and Michigan who have advocated similar laws.

But in trying to legislate an issue that is equal parts public safety and racial justice, lawmakers have had to grapple with the biases of the city’s residents and confront thorny, multilayered questions about the community’s role in policing. Would such laws discourage people actually in danger from calling the police? How would a call be judged as biased or legitimate? Who would enforce the law, anyway?

The Grand Rapids provision is valuable because it addresses residents who use law enforcement as their “personal racism concierges,” said Phillip Atiba Goff, president of the Center for Policing Equity, a nonprofit group that promotes police transparency and accountability.

“What’s unique is that there’s an explicit element of race in this,” Goff told The Washington Post. “It’s speaking directly to this wave of viral incidents of ‘living while black.’ There’s a lot of good that comes from the writing of a statute like that. It acknowledges that there’s a history of this.”

This week, the Grand Rapids commission held its first public hearing on the ordinance, which seeks to make a number of direct changes to city code. It would add a detailed list of protected classes and broaden definitions of discriminatory practices.

Its most notable feature, however, is the section on “biased crime reporting,” which would make it a criminal misdemeanor, punishable by up to a $500 fine, to call 911 on people of color and other protected classes who have not done anything wrong.

Experts on racial bias and law enforcement say these incidents are not outliers, and many agree that people of color face higher rates of misguided complaints to police.

Grand Rapids leaders said they hope this ordinance puts an end to those biased 911 calls that some say are all too common and directly affect the city’s black and Hispanic residents, who make up 20 and 15 percent of the population, respectively.

“If you’re in a park or see someone coming through the neighborhood who doesn’t look like you, check your bias before you call the police,” said Patricia Caudill, the city’s diversity and inclusion manager.

However, Caudill said she doesn’t want the measure to discourage residents from calling the police if they think they’re in trouble.

“We are absolutely not telling people not to call the police,” she said. “If you feel like you’re in harm, call the police. That’s why we have the police.”

In Grand Rapids, a city of nearly 200,000 people where more than 110,000 calls are made to 911 every year, regulating a caller’s intent may not be that simple. In most cases, experts say, making a judgment about the line between a legitimate call and a racist call would be too subjective.

One such scenario may have unfolded in northeast Grand Rapids in October, when a woman called 911 to report possible gunfire at a neighbor’s home, where a black family lived. When officers arrived, they held a 12-year-old girl at gunpoint as they handcuffed her and searched her for weapons. They did not find anything and reported no evidence of a shooting there. Police told local media they did not suspect the caller had malicious intent, but advocates say the case is an example of why a bias law is necessary.

Some in law enforcement may see a silver lining in such a policy, which would recognize the role bias in a community plays in how and where the police respond to alleged crimes. In general, though, researchers said this type of proposal is not popular among police.

Grand Rapids police declined to comment on the specifics of the city’s plan, though department spokesman Sgt. Dan Adams said David Kiddle, the interim police chief, “looks forward to the public having that opportunity to be heard, and to see where the ordinance progresses from there.”

During a hearing Tuesday evening, dozens of Grand Rapids residents called the proposed ordinance a good, tangible way to address racism and discrimination in the city.

One resident described the ordinance as “the start of a new beginning.”

Kymie Spring, a community organizer for her neighborhood association, recounted an incident where a resident called to complain about “two black kids riding their bikes” down their street.

Another resident, Elena Gormley, who lives in the city’s northeast, said consequences are necessary to prevent people from “treating police like J.C. Penny customer service.” Without them, she said, some in Grand Rapids would continue to call “the cops on people who are not doing anything, except existing as being black or brown.”

In emails to the commission, some people noted that it is already illegal to file a false police report. Others wondered how the ordinance would be enforced and worried it could cause someone to hesitate dialing 911 when they were actually in danger.

“How will investigators of the alleged bias determine what is truly a sinister and criminal motive from a simple misunderstanding?” one resident wrote, adding the onus should fall on dispatchers, who must be able to discern a low-level report from a crime that deserves an aggressive response.

Goff agreed, arguing that dispatchers need more tools at their disposal — a potentially expensive but vital investment in public safety. When a call is made about a child selling water without a permit, for example, perhaps an operator could send a social worker in place of an armed police officer, he said.

“Let’s give 911 operators better training and, more importantly, more options so that the only response isn’t a person whose job it is to decide whether to take away life and liberty,” Goff added.

The city commission, a seven-member nonpartisan body, is expected to vote on the ordinance on May 14. Caudill, whose office crafted the proposal, said she is “cautiously optimistic” about its chances of passing.

Attempts to pass laws on biased crime-reporting in New York and Michigan stalled before they could gain any serious traction in the legislature, but in Oregon this week, lawmakers voted overwhelmingly to advance a bill that would allow the targets of allegedly prejudiced police calls to sue the person who dialed 911.


The bill is sponsored by Oregon state Rep. Janelle Bynum (D), who once had the police called on her as she canvassed door-to-door in her district because a resident thought she looked “suspicious.”

Like others, her experience quickly became a hashtag: #CampaigningWhileBlack.

“I was happy that I was caught in the act of doing what I am supposed to be doing and going above and beyond for my constituents,” Bynum told The Post last year.

But, “I wondered what I had done to make someone suspicious, if I had done anything at all,” she added.

Attendees of the June graduation party in Mulick Park say they felt much the same way. Police were cordial upon arriving, they said, but their sudden and unexpected presence inserted a somber moment into the joyous celebration of the young graduates.

Shreve said it was troubling that neighbors found it necessary to call police when they had the park reserved for their three-hour party and weren’t breaking any laws.

“It’s disappointing that [people] are so intimidated by a group of people who look like us,” Shreve said.

She paused before posing a question: “Where does it stem from?”

There were no weapons at the gathering, she said, no fighting, no trouble.

They were just living their lives.
 
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Need more context. If he walked in behind the resident and there is no other security door to enter the building, I have no issue. The guy taping should have respected his wish to identify who he was visiting. If there was a secondary/security door the guy being videotaped was just being a tool.
 
Need more context. If he walked in behind the resident and there is no other security door to enter the building, I have no issue. The guy taping should have respected his wish to identify who he was visiting. If there was a secondary/security door the guy being videotaped was just being a tool.

It's an apartment building, not the fucking pentagon. Who gives a shit? I let people into my building all the time and have no idea who they are, so what? What's the worst thing that could happen, they ring all the doorbells and run away?? Oh noes! Geez, this paranoia..
 
It's an apartment building, not the fucking pentagon. Who gives a shit? I let people into my building all the time and have no idea who they are, so what? What's the worst thing that could happen, they ring all the doorbells and run away?? Oh noes! Geez, this paranoia..

I give a shit because I give a shit about my safety. And do you really think it's wise to let people into your building without a clue as to who they are? I'm sure there was a reason someone made that entry in such a way that it needed a resident/key to open. I understand you're trying to be kind, but in the process you're defeating that security feature and deciding for others how much security you think they should have.

Well the worst thing could be, they wait in the hallways for an elderly person, women or chilf, force their way into their apartment when they open it and rape them or worse. A lot worse than ringing doorbells, no? But, I am very protective of my home and assume I would be even moreso if I had a family.
 
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I give a shit because I give a shit about my safety. And do you really think it's wise to let people into your building without a clue as to who they are? I'm sure there was a reason someone made that entry in such a way that it needed a resident/key to open. I understand you're trying to be kind, but in the process you're defeating that security feature and deciding for others how much security you think they should have.

Well the worst thing could be, they wait in the hallways for an elderly person, women or chilf, force their way into their apartment when they open it and rape them or worse. A lot worse than ringing doorbells, no? But, I am very protective of my home and assume I would be even moreso if I had a family.

ah, yes. The rapist in the dark alley. Think of the children! Old people! The world is full of scary baddies!
Just the same old paranoia. Can justify pretty much anything
 
ah, yes. The rapist in the dark alley. Think of the children! Old people! The world is full of scary baddies!
Just the same old paranoia. Can justify pretty much anything

Maybe you should be making this argument to your apartment building management. You know they are the ones who decided to put a LOCK on that door.
 
I give a shit because I give a shit about my safety. And do you really think it's wise to let people into your building without a clue as to who they are? I'm sure there was a reason someone made that entry in such a way that it needed a resident/key to open. I understand you're trying to be kind, but in the process you're defeating that security feature and deciding for others how much security you think they should have.

Well the worst thing could be, they wait in the hallways for an elderly person, women or chilf, force their way into their apartment when they open it and rape them or worse. A lot worse than ringing doorbells, no? But, I am very protective of my home and assume I would be even moreso if I had a family.

stfu. You think the apartment building is a open dwelling? There are locked doors infront of every apartment. "oh no black person" Get the fuck out of here.
 
That says a lot about what you think of yourself as a alleged foster parent.
No, I just know more about kids outcomes. Children who grow up with their parents, as long as they are safe and can provide for their basic needs do better long term than kids growing up in well off homes of people who are not their bio parents.

Pick up a child psychology book, I really learned a lot from "The boy who was raised as a dog" a heart wrenching read for sure. also Karen Purvis and Dan Siegel's books.
 
No, I just know more about kids outcomes. Children who grow up with their parents, as long as they are safe and can provide for their basic needs do better long term than kids growing up in well off homes of people who are not their bio parents.

Pick up a child psychology book, I really learned a lot from "The boy who was raised as a dog" a heart wrenching read for sure. also Karen Purvis and Dan Siegel's books.

Google the name "Art Linkletter" a name given to an infant by the nuns who found him in a basket left on the steps of a church. Seems he turned out just fine.

Mel Gibson was also abandoned as an infant and raised by nuns. Although to be fair, his issues didn't come out until much later in life. And some might say he didn't want his own son to suffer a similar fate.
 
Google the name "Art Linkletter" a name given to an infant by the nuns who found him in a basket left on the steps of a church. Seems he turned out just fine.

Mel Gibson was also abandoned as an infant and raised by nuns. Although to be fair, his issues didn't come out until much later in life. And some might say he didn't want his own son to suffer a similar fate.

Mel Gibson was raised by nuns?

"Gibson was born in Peekskill, New York, the sixth of eleven children, and the second son of Hutton Gibson, a writer, and Irish-born Anne Patricia (née Reilly, died 1990).[7][8] Gibson's paternal grandmother was opera contralto Eva Mylott (1875–1920), who was born in Australia, to Irish parents,[9] while his paternal grandfather, John Hutton Gibson, was a millionaire tobacco businessman from the American South.[10][11] One of Gibson's younger brothers, Donal, is also an actor. Gibson's first name is derived from Saint Mel, fifth-century Irish saint, and founder of Gibson's mother's native diocese, Ardagh, while his second name, Colmcille,[12] is also shared by an Irish saint[13] and is the name of the Aughnacliffe parish in County Longford where Gibson's mother was born and raised. Because of his mother, Gibson retains dual Irish and American citizenship.[14] Gibson is also an Australian permanent resident.[15][16]

Gibson's father was awarded US$145,000 in a work-related-injury lawsuit against the New York Central Railroad on February 14, 1968, and soon afterwards relocated his family to West Pymble, Sydney, Australia.[17] Mel was twelve years old at the time. The move to his grandmother's native Australia was for economic reasons, and his father's expectation that the Australian Defence Forces would reject his eldest son for the draft during the Vietnam War.[18]

Gibson was educated by members of the Congregation of Christian Brothers at St Leo's Catholic College in Wahroonga, New South Wales, during his high school years.[19][20]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Gibson#Early_life
 
stfu. You think the apartment building is a open dwelling? There are locked doors infront of every apartment. "oh no black person" Get the fuck out of here.
?? His post had nothing to do with race. Not saying the guy in the video isn't racist.

I would not let randoms into my apartment building either, and this is coming from a dark skinned fella. Several parking garage lockers in the condo building I lived in 5 yrs ago got robbed by non-residents, so it's not just about people breaking into the apartments. Would you be okay with people loitering on your property if it was a house? Your door is locked so it's okay?
 
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