a couple of 4850 crysis screenshots..

mancunian

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Thought some of you might be interested in these screens of Crysis with an ASUS Radeon 4850, paired with a Gigabyte P35 DS3L, 2Gb of generic DDR2800 RAM and an E7200 @ 3.6Ghz (9 x 400) on a Freezer 7 Pro.

The frames with these screens were fairly fluid at about 33-35, in firefights it drops to about 25. It's very playable for the most part basically, except of course at the end, where it stutters just like most other people's systems. But these screens are from what I call the nicest part, the jungle, the bit that contains the most eye candy in my opinion.

It also gave me a chance to see what the 4850 could do, because Crysis as a game is pretty lame, but when you're going through some of the jungle scenes, the realism is quite unbelievable.

However, the key to this was the Crysis Triple C Pack Mod. I installed the 2nd highest option (the 1st says for next generation hardware, the 4850 does not come into this category) and used the Windows XP SP2 and Directx 9c option. Without it, the game looked a little bit too twee. The mod also contained Ultima's time of day mod, which was also quite stunning.

Anyway, the point of all this is that the hardware used is pretty bargain basement. The board was a proven overclocker, yet cheap. The chip was far cheaper than the 8000 range. The RAM is generic. The PSU is a Corsair VX550, a well known good but also cheap power supply.

And of course, the 4850, which at 130 quid, is dirt cheap for the UK.

So even cheaper for you guys in the US.

The 2 screenshots:

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Not bad for a cheapo card. Screen res was 1680 x 1050, no AA was used. AA kills performance with the mod, but the mod makes the game look beautiful.

As a game, Crysis is a bit lacking in my opinion. As a benchmark, it's a very pretty one. I took these 2 screenshots because they seem to show the lighting quite well.

The 4850 seems to be a sound buy for the midrange gamer. I'm certainly liking it.



Moved to PC Gaming.

Video Mod BFG10K.
 

mancunian

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Well, as I said, the PC is nothing special by today's standards and prices, it offers pure bang for buck.

If anyone's interested, you can get the entire mod here

Without that, no sunrays, fantastic shadows or lighting.

Don't know what this guy did, but what he did works nice.
 

mancunian

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Here's a few more, now that I've worked out how to display fps in Fraps, that is one hell of a mod that guy made...:Q

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:thumbsup: to the 4850, lord only knows what the 4870, 4870x2 and NVidia's offerings will do...


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mancunian

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Originally posted by: Marty502
*slits wrists*

Well that certainly wasn't my intention Marty. :D ;)

My intention was to say you get a lot of graphics card for your money with this one, 130 quid is CHEAP man. So we're obviously in the midst of a graphics card price war, which is good news for EVERYONE. This isn't on an expensive rig, it's on one with cut price budget components.

I mean, some of you guys in the US have been picking these things up for $150, that's about 75 quid! :Q

 

msi1337

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I got my 4850 from Best Buy last week for $149.99

and I can tell you, it is very impressive. I can run Crysis at 1680x1050 with all settings on high (no AA or AF), and it gets 35 fps. It looks absolutely amazing!
 

tuteja1986

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I can't wait for Crysis Warhead , it will update the crytek 2 engine and make it run at 60FPS with better looking graphic.
 

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Originally posted by: mancunian
Well, as I said, the PC is nothing special by today's standards and prices, it offers pure bang for buck.

If anyone's interested, you can get the entire mod here

Without that, no sunrays, fantastic shadows or lighting.

Don't know what this guy did, but what he did works nice.

Thx for the link to the mod. I might have to play through Crysis again once I get my second 4850 installed. :)
 

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Originally posted by: mancunian
Originally posted by: Marty502
*slits wrists*

Well that certainly wasn't my intention Marty. :D ;)

My intention was to say you get a lot of graphics card for your money with this one, 130 quid is CHEAP man. So we're obviously in the midst of a graphics card price war, which is good news for EVERYONE. This isn't on an expensive rig, it's on one with cut price budget components.

I mean, some of you guys in the US have been picking these things up for $150, that's about 75 quid! :Q

Its the new mb, cpu, memory, vista that add up. dx10 is an upgrade.
 

GlacierFreeze

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Those pics look very nice, but I hate games that make their shadows too dark (most games I've ever played are like this). Some of those pics you can't see hardly anything. Shadows are too freakin' dark. If you were in a real jungle, the light shining through the trees would lighten up stuff to at least see stuff. Mainly talking about pic 2 a couple posts up.
 

Sylvanas

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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
I can't wait for Crysis Warhead , it will update the crytek 2 engine and make it run at 60FPS with better looking graphic.

Crysis already runs on 'CryEngine 2' I doubt you will see any better performance than we already get. CryEngine appears to be very unoptimized at this stage- when you see how good UE3 looks AND runs it begs the question what went wrong with Crytek.

Those are nice pics Mancunian, but could the same thing be achieved with tweaking the system.cfg file yourself? Or does the mod do more under the hood.
 

tuteja1986

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Originally posted by: Sylvanas
Originally posted by: tuteja1986
I can't wait for Crysis Warhead , it will update the crytek 2 engine and make it run at 60FPS with better looking graphic.

Crysis already runs on 'CryEngine 2' I doubt you will see any better performance than we already get. CryEngine appears to be very unoptimized at this stage- when you see how good UE3 looks AND runs it begs the question what went wrong with Crytek.

Those are nice pics Mancunian, but could the same thing be achieved with tweaking the system.cfg file yourself? Or does the mod do more under the hood.

I meant it will update Cry 2 engine.. as in they have made a lot of changes to engine to make it run more smooth.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index....view&id=10819&Itemid=2

The press release for Warhead said that the game will be running on an "enhanced and optimized version of Crytek's CryENGINE 2 technology." Could you offer some basic details about which enhancements have been made? Will Crytek try to make Warhead more scalable than the original Crysis?

Yes, we have made further enhancements to make our CryENGINE 2 even more scaleable, which is a side benefit of having to add features that make it more console friendly, and the luxury of still more time to polish and tune it. At the same time, since the release of Crysis, newer and less expensive hardware has and will continue to become available which reduces the cost of acquiring a PC that can run our game at the highest possible graphics settings. But in reality, the engine has always been quite well optimized for what it does, and now with the latest updates from ourselves, Microsoft and the hardware vendors, most users have reported very satisfactory frame rates at their preferred resolutions, whatever their hardware. This is a point that has not received much public attention, nor has the fact that the scalability of the engine has never actually held back the sale of Crysis. You only have to look at the comparative PC sales volumes of other prominent FPS games which shipped around the same time to see that other's lower perceived hardware requirements did not actually translate to bigger overall sales numbers than Crysis. Sorry, but we aren't yet ready to reveal the other enhancements to the CryENGINE 2 that we made until we are nearer to our final ship date.
 

Sylvanas

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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Originally posted by: Sylvanas
Originally posted by: tuteja1986
I can't wait for Crysis Warhead , it will update the crytek 2 engine and make it run at 60FPS with better looking graphic.

Crysis already runs on 'CryEngine 2' I doubt you will see any better performance than we already get. CryEngine appears to be very unoptimized at this stage- when you see how good UE3 looks AND runs it begs the question what went wrong with Crytek.

Those are nice pics Mancunian, but could the same thing be achieved with tweaking the system.cfg file yourself? Or does the mod do more under the hood.

I meant it will update Crytek 2 engine.. as in they have made a lot of changes to engine to make it run more smooth. Also they haven't released new updates for crysis.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index....view&id=10819&Itemid=2

The press release for Warhead said that the game will be running on an "enhanced and optimized version of Crytek's CryENGINE 2 technology." Could you offer some basic details about which enhancements have been made? Will Crytek try to make Warhead more scalable than the original Crysis?

Yes, we have made further enhancements to make our CryENGINE 2 even more scaleable, which is a side benefit of having to add features that make it more console friendly, and the luxury of still more time to polish and tune it. At the same time, since the release of Crysis, newer and less expensive hardware has and will continue to become available which reduces the cost of acquiring a PC that can run our game at the highest possible graphics settings. But in reality, the engine has always been quite well optimized for what it does, and now with the latest updates from ourselves, Microsoft and the hardware vendors, most users have reported very satisfactory frame rates at their preferred resolutions, whatever their hardware. This is a point that has not received much public attention, nor has the fact that the scalability of the engine has never actually held back the sale of Crysis. You only have to look at the comparative PC sales volumes of other prominent FPS games which shipped around the same time to see that other's lower perceived hardware requirements did not actually translate to bigger overall sales numbers than Crysis. Sorry, but we aren't yet ready to reveal the other enhancements to the CryENGINE 2 that we made until we are nearer to our final ship date.

I am hoping for the best when they say it runs better (thanks for the link) but I hold reservations if it will be the usual 'it really does run at 60fps!' when they neglect to mention rez/AA/ingame settings, in these Pre-release statements.
 

Bull Dog

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UE3 doesn't hold a candle to Crysis's game engine (CryEngine is it?). UE3 games (Gears, UT3, Bioshock ect.) have been made for consoles and as such don't really offer anything more than than we've already seen in the past three years. Sure they look pretty good, but in the end it still falls apart at the edges. Crysis doesn't have the problem. Frankly, compared to Crysis, those games look like crap.
 

Sylvanas

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Originally posted by: Bull Dog
UE3 doesn't hold a candle to Crysis's game engine (CryEngine is it?). UE3 games (Gears, UT3, Bioshock ect.) have been made for consoles and as such don't really offer anything more than than we've already seen in the past three years. Sure they look pretty good, but in the end it still falls apart at the edges. Crysis doesn't have the problem. Frankly, compared to Crysis, those games look like crap.

Well that is you're own subjective opinion. I don't think any of us here would say that Bioshock or UT3 'look crap' that's ridiculous, especially given how on equivalent hardware it runs at least twice as fast fps wise than Crysis. I could link pictures as evidence but that would derail this thread into a argument.

I think I will reinstall Crysis and give this mod a go, thanks mancunian :thumbsup:
 

pcslookout

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Wow this makes me want to upgrade my video card to a 4850 because 1680x1050 is perfect for me but would like 4x aa and 16 af but that is not possible at the resolution with the 4850 on Crysis. Who knows if it will even be possible on the the 4870 or any of the new nvidia cards.
 

mancunian

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Originally posted by: Sylvanas
Those are nice pics Mancunian, but could the same thing be achieved with tweaking the system.cfg file yourself? Or does the mod do more under the hood.

I'm sure it could, the mod just makes it easy for the user to do that without messing with a text file.

I was just using Crysis as a benchmark, possibly its best use. :D


 

LittleNemoNES

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Originally posted by: GlacierFreeze
Those pics look very nice, but I hate games that make their shadows too dark (most games I've ever played are like this). Some of those pics you can't see hardly anything. Shadows are too freakin' dark. If you were in a real jungle, the light shining through the trees would lighten up stuff to at least see stuff. Mainly talking about pic 2 a couple posts up.

That's because of the mod he's using.
I don't like the shadows much either.

I'm using Everything on High + custom system.cfg:

con_restricted=0
cl_fov=80
q_Renderer=3
r_colorgrading=1
r_UsePOM=0
r_sunshafts=1
e_water_ocean_fft=1
r_TexturesStreaming=0
e_shadows_max_texture_size=512

I use others but these are all I can remember off the top of my head. Try it and be amazed. Very playable for me on an 8800GT (soon to be 4870 XFire)
 

mancunian

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Originally posted by: gersson
That's because of the mod he's using.


Exactly. I'm sure you can tweak that to how you like. Personally, I don't mind the shadows, I like 'em a lot.

All the mod does is text file editing that I couldn't be bothered to do.

If you can be bothered, you can surely get some nice results.

 

Piuc2020

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Originally posted by: Sylvanas
Originally posted by: Bull Dog
UE3 doesn't hold a candle to Crysis's game engine (CryEngine is it?). UE3 games (Gears, UT3, Bioshock ect.) have been made for consoles and as such don't really offer anything more than than we've already seen in the past three years. Sure they look pretty good, but in the end it still falls apart at the edges. Crysis doesn't have the problem. Frankly, compared to Crysis, those games look like crap.

Well that is you're own subjective opinion. I don't think any of us here would say that Bioshock or UT3 'look crap' that's ridiculous, especially given how on equivalent hardware it runs at least twice as fast fps wise than Crysis. I could link pictures as evidence but that would derail this thread into a argument.

I think I will reinstall Crysis and give this mod a go, thanks mancunian :thumbsup:

I hate people saying CryEngine2 is badly optimized or badly coded, sure it doesn't run all that great at the highest settings but at medium the game looks much better than UE3 and runs at 60fps.

When the CryEngine2 is configured to produce graphics similar to other engines out there it runs just as well as them if not better.

So again, CRYSIS IS NOT A POORLY CODED GAME. Our hardware sucks, that is all, Crysis is meant to be futureproof.
 

BladeVenom

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Originally posted by: GlacierFreeze
Those pics look very nice, but I hate games that make their shadows too dark (most games I've ever played are like this). Some of those pics you can't see hardly anything. Shadows are too freakin' dark. If you were in a real jungle, the light shining through the trees would lighten up stuff to at least see stuff. Mainly talking about pic 2 a couple posts up.

Adjust the gamma settings.