A break in this is the only thing that will turn our economy around

Painman

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Should be a good strawberry season for Cape Cod, provided it warms up a bit. Native berries, yummy!
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: conjur
WTF are you talking about?

doughts tend to have a pretty negative effect on the economy
 

CADsortaGUY

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Forecasts are pegging the corn crop to be at near record or record levels this year. Soybeans look good also - as long as we can keep the asian rust out of our crop. From what I've been hearing and reading - most farmers and forecasters aren't too concerned about what you linked to. We still have plenty of time to get water tables up and most say soil moisture is high enough to allow for germination inspite of the "drought" warnings/labels in areas.

Wheat may be affected more than corn and soy though but we mainly deal with the corn and soy areas at work as far as our agribusiness clients go.

Anyone know how the wheat crop forecasts are looking? I could google it up but I'd like to hear from someone who deals in the industry or close to it.

CkG
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Forecasts are pegging the corn crop to be at near record or record levels this year. Soybeans look good also - as long as we can keep the asian rust out of our crop. From what I've been hearing and reading - most farmers and forecasters aren't too concerned about what you linked to. We still have plenty of time to get water tables up and most say soil moisture is high enough to allow for germination inspite of the "drought" warnings/labels in areas.

Wheat may be affected more than corn and soy though but we mainly deal with the corn and soy areas at work as far as our agribusiness clients go.

Anyone know how the wheat crop forecasts are looking? I could google it up but I'd like to hear from someone who deals in the industry or close to it.

CkG
Kansas, Nebraska, wyoming and colorado forecasts are dismal. Irrigation limits have been reduced by as much as 40% in some areas....Rains that supplement our ground water reserves have been at half of traditional levels for 4 years.

Lake Mcconnahaugh in Nebraska will be at its lowest level in decades this summer if the trend continues.


Granted, these areas don't contribute a majority of ag products, but the impact of even an area of drought this size can take hundreds of billions away from our economy.

This is where it all starts..
 

klah

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Wheat Belt drought taking heavy toll

WELLINGTON, Kansas (CNN) -- Wheat prices are setting records at the Chicago Board of Trade as a drought in the Wheat Belt shrivels the crop. Some are calling the conditions -- in some of the most fertile wheat-producing land in the world -- the worst since the dust bowl days of the 1930s.

Farmers say they've never seen it so bad, bankers call the drought a disaster, and the people in Wellington, Kansas, the "Wheat Capital of the World," have watched the wheat crop shrink into nothing.
This is where it all starts..

Oh wait... that is from 1996.
 

zephyrprime

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The drought that is shown seems to be primarily in states that aren't big farm states anyway.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: klah
Wheat Belt drought taking heavy toll

WELLINGTON, Kansas (CNN) -- Wheat prices are setting records at the Chicago Board of Trade as a drought in the Wheat Belt shrivels the crop. Some are calling the conditions -- in some of the most fertile wheat-producing land in the world -- the worst since the dust bowl days of the 1930s.

Farmers say they've never seen it so bad, bankers call the drought a disaster, and the people in Wellington, Kansas, the "Wheat Capital of the World," have watched the wheat crop shrink into nothing.
This is where it all starts..

Oh wait... that is from 1996.


This is where it (the majority of new money is or is not pumped into our economy) all starts..

Wellington, ks is not in the current impacted drought area..
 

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Not Just Dought, What About the 17 year brood of Cicadas about to demolish the east cosast and midwest?
 

XZeroII

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Are these taking into account normal dry areas? Denver is technically classified as a desert. Are they saying that it will be even drier than usual, or just drier than Florida?
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
The drought that is shown seems to be primarily in states that aren't big farm states anyway.

There are approximately 630 million acres affected under the drought link map. Farming in these areas is unremarkable as you mentioned, but the majority of bovine grazing in the country is done in the same area..

The revenue generated by grazing in normal rainfall years would come close to equating to net farming income on the same ground if proper moisture was conducive to farming.

The impact of drought on grazing is directly related to percentages of normal rainfalls in these areas.

The production of Billions of pounds of beef are being affected..
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: XZeroII
Are these taking into account normal dry areas? Denver is technically classified as a desert. Are they saying that it will be even drier than usual, or just drier than Florida?

Extended periods with significant decreases in historical precipitation levels for that area..

Its funny you should mention Florida, as they have recently been through the worst drought in their recorded history also..

Florida drought
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: conjur
Grapes of Wrath II

There are large sections of southwest kansas where the exodus has already begun.

I don't have current figures but us census estimates for 2002 by county show a large number of counties with two year losses of people equivalent to 10 prior year losses.

Tax receipt problems for Kansas, Nebraska, Colorado and Wyoming, which are predominately ag product states, would also point to the impact of drought and a possible exodus of a significant number of citizens from these areas.

I have contacts in a paticular county in Kansas (Lane)
which tells me that the county has lost half its population From 2002 to 2004. And that people are leaving in droves in surrounding counties.
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Forecasts are pegging the corn crop to be at near record or record levels this year. Soybeans look good also - as long as we can keep the asian rust out of our crop. From what I've been hearing and reading - most farmers and forecasters aren't too concerned about what you linked to. We still have plenty of time to get water tables up and most say soil moisture is high enough to allow for germination inspite of the "drought" warnings/labels in areas.

Wheat may be affected more than corn and soy though but we mainly deal with the corn and soy areas at work as far as our agribusiness clients go.

Anyone know how the wheat crop forecasts are looking? I could google it up but I'd like to hear from someone who deals in the industry or close to it.

CkG
Kansas, Nebraska, wyoming and colorado forecasts are dismal. Irrigation limits have been reduced by as much as 40% in some areas....Rains that supplement our ground water reserves have been at half of traditional levels for 4 years.

Lake Mcconnahaugh in Nebraska will be at its lowest level in decades this summer if the trend continues.


Granted, these areas don't contribute a majority of ag products, but the impact of even an area of drought this size can take hundreds of billions away from our economy.

This is where it all starts..


OMG, I'm starting to sound like Dave..
:eek: