A brand new Automotive Trivia question!!!

Iron Woode

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This one should be a fairly tough question.

What badly implemented safety feature was mandated by Congress back in 1974? It is part of the car.

Here is a hint: it really annoyed Mopar owners more than other makes.

Bonus question: when was it repealed by Congress?
 

BigSmooth

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Federal 55-mph speed limit, repealed in 1995?

Edit: didn't see "it's part of the car"
 

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Federal law requires all vehicles to have seat belt interlock system that prevents engine from starting unless driver and passengers are buckled up (later repealed by Congress in response to public outcry over "inconvenience").

 

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Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Federal law requires all vehicles to have seat belt interlock system that prevents engine from starting unless driver and passengers are buckled up (later repealed by Congress in response to public outcry over "inconvenience").
Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

It wasn't just inconvenience. It was a pain to fix when it broke. The bypass button wasn't reliable. The whole system could be bypassed easily.

Forced seatbelt wearing wasn't a good idea back then.
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Roger
Here is a hint: it really annoyed Mopar owners more than other makes.

Can you please explain this statement ?
The Chrysler system was complicated and trouble prone. When something went wrong with it (more often than not) you would have to open the hood and find the bypass button and push it. It worked only once per push. If it failed to start you must repeat the procedure over again.

If you have never seen the engine compartment of a mid 70's mopar then you are in for a treat. More hoses and wiring and what-not than you can imagine. Let us not forget Lean Burn.
 

This system was on all makes of vehicles, I remember doing that crap on my cousin's Chevette...BLECHHHH.


Lean Burn, OH GOD NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They were out to lunch dropping acid when they developed that sh!tty a$$ed system.

I was around and working on vehicles in the seventies, crappy decade for tech's :p
 

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The reason the law was repealed was due to the fact that a young mother was taking her sick infant to the emergency room for treatment and placed the infant on the front seat of her car, (before infant carseats). The weight of the sick infant activated the pressure switch that was part of the interlock system and the car would not start. The young mother in her rush to get medical treatment for her sick child forgot about the interlock system. The infant died and a lawsuit ensued, later that year (1974) congress repealed the law calling for the interlock systems on cars.
 

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Originally posted by: Roger
This system was on all makes of vehicles, I remember doing that crap on my cousin's Chevette...BLECHHHH.


Lean Burn, OH GOD NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They were out to lunch dropping acid when they developed that sh!tty a$$ed system.

I was around and working on vehicles in the seventies, crappy decade for tech's :p
Lean Burn was not a good idea.

Although I do have to say that when Lean Burn did work properly it was very nice. My Lebaron had that with a 318 2bbl. Tuned up and the carb adjusted right, it would have no problem sqealing the tire from a dead stop. But because of much needed mods I got rid of it. Very easy to replace it with electronic ignition as most of the wiring is already there.
 

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Considering that fully grown adults STILL don't use seatbelts to a great extent I am not surprised this was implemented. Still, I can see how it would be a pain. I think that I always turn onthe car before putting on my belt and if you have reason to turn the engine on without even being in the car (working on it for charging battery for instance) that could be a small annoyance.
 

What's this lean burn that you speak of?

It was a damn engineering disaster of the ages, this was Chryslers first attempt at fuel mangagement and ignition management combined, they ran like sh!t right off the assembly line.
 

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Originally posted by: Roger
What's this lean burn that you speak of?

It was a damn engineering disaster of the ages, this was Chryslers first attempt at fuel mangagement and ignition management combined, they ran like sh!t right off the assembly line.

just what it says,
Lean Burn

i think it was so lean of a fuel mixture that the cars were down on power about 15%.

I saw a few 440 cop cars at auction,go Cheap,because they were lean crapburn.

The smart people just went to the slightly older carb/distributor,and threw away the crapburn stuff.

;)


My trivia question,
Why were the cop cars in 1975,76 starting fires?
 

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Originally posted by: Roger
What's this lean burn that you speak of?

It was a damn engineering disaster of the ages, this was Chryslers first attempt at fuel mangagement and ignition management combined, they ran like sh!t right off the assembly line.
That's a bit harsh.

It was just primitive computer control for both carb and ignition. In the 70s it wasn't too invasive, but in the 80's it was pretty bad.

Like I said, I had it on mine and while it wasn't the greatest thing evar, it did work fairly well. It reduced air pollution and increased fuel economy by allowing the burning of a very lean fuel/air mixture.

A fair number of Canadian cars did not receive this setup, thank goodness. Mine did though. Mine now has an edelbrock performer intake, holley carb, cam dynamics cam (454 lift), cloyes double roller timing chain, electronic ignition (recurved dist., chrome box, 8mm Moroso wires,etc), custom dual exhaust (these cars never came with dual exhaust and have no provisions for it), a modded 998 automatic and a modded suspension for better handling. Don't even get me started on the transverse torsionbar front suspension these cars had.
 

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Originally posted by: Roger
Harsh but true.


Why were the cop cars in 1975,76 starting fires?

What cop cars, way to vague.

New Cop cars,especially,Pontiac,Mopar,etc
1975,and 1976 model years,were starting grass fires,and the cars themselves were catching on fire.
 

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Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: Roger
Harsh but true.


Why were the cop cars in 1975,76 starting fires?

What cop cars, way to vague.

New Cop cars,especially,Pontiac,Mopar,etc
1975,and 1976 model years,were starting grass fires,and the cars themselves were catching on fire.
Catalytic converters. That is old news.

The question should be: why are new Crown Vics catching on fire?
 

cavemanmoron

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: Roger
Harsh but true.


Why were the cop cars in 1975,76 starting fires?

What cop cars, way to vague.

New Cop cars,especially,Pontiac,Mopar,etc
1975,and 1976 model years,were starting grass fires,and the cars themselves were catching on fire.
Catalytic converters. That is old news.

yes,but how many people remember it/>?

i saw a few vehicles that got burnt up,because it was hot out,and they left the car running,
so the A/C would work.One of them was a new 1976 Pontiac,that caught the rug on fire,and almost killed the Police officer. :(
 

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: Roger
Harsh but true.


Why were the cop cars in 1975,76 starting fires?

What cop cars, way to vague.

New Cop cars,especially,Pontiac,Mopar,etc
1975,and 1976 model years,were starting grass fires,and the cars themselves were catching on fire.
Catalytic converters. That is old news.

The question should be: why are new Crown Vics catching on fire?


Same problem as the Pinto's right? Gas tanks rupturing easily that could have been resolved with a simple modification? I remember reading about this recently.