A black republican who is pro discrimination?

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Craig234

Lifer
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The left tells us

95% of what's said here about liberals is wrong or lies, I can't remember the other 5%.

that the traditional American family consisting of one man and one woman is just one of several possible arrangements, all of which are equally moral and acceptable.

"traditional" seems to me "majority", which hasn't changed; define "moral" and "acceptable".

What are these "several arrangements"? The only one at issue is equality for gays.

[/quote]They tell us that marriage is no longer necessary to sanctify man-woman relationships.[/quote]

Define "sanctify". Men and women can legally live together. If they don't think that's 'sanctified' they can choose not to. If they want to, they can.

[quoteAlthough the institution of marriage is no longer vital to heterosexual partners[/quote]

Who said it's not "vital" to some heterosexual partners? Some couples think it is, some don't. The US Supreme Court has declared the right to marry a fundamental human right.

, it is absolutely essential that same-sex couples be allowed to marry.

Yes, despite your poor attempt to make a straw man, it is essential that we not discriminate against people for reasons of bigotry under the law.

If the federal government has a contest to eat dirt and worms, it may be idiotic, but they had better not say 'blacks' or 'gays' cannot participate because of bigotry.

To deny them that basic right is discriminatory, immoral, unfair, and clearly unconstitutional. That's what we hear.

You can repeat the words, at least. But can you do any more?

Marriage can be attained without religion. A justice of the peace, or a judge for example can legally marry people. Religion and marriage are not mutually exclusive.

Not sure what your point is here. His point seemed to be that religious beliefs consistent with gay marriage are outlawed to practice by religious views opposed to it.

In other words, we effectively have one religion's views enacted in the law - for discrimination. If a church marries a gay couple, that doesn't make them legally married.
 

sandorski

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Ya all might want to check out the so called religion of islam's attitude on homosexuality.

LOL!

Same as Christianities(a significant portion of it anyway). All Religion is holding us back and it would best if all abandoned them. However, as long as they're around. one Religion spewing nonsense about one of its' competitors needs to be addressed.
 
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a777pilot

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Same as Christianities(a significant portion of it anyway). All Religion is holding us back and it would best if all abandoned them. However, as long as they're around. one Religion spewing nonsense about one of its' competitors needs to be addressed.

Oh, Bull Shit!

Please tell me one Christian, Jewish or any other religion that calles for the killing of homosexuals.

Damn, you're funny.

What happens to those homosexuals that I'm-a-dinner-jacket says they don't have in Iran when they actually catch one. I'll give you a hint....they don't pray for them.

Now granted that "more-ham-it" guy did like his little boys.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
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Oh, Bull Shit!

Please tell me one Christian, Jewish or any other religion that calles for the killing of homosexuals.

Damn, you're funny.

What happens to those homosexuals that I'm-a-dinner-jacket says they don't have in Iran when they actually catch one. I'll give you a hint....they don't pray for them.

Now granted that "more-ham-it" guy did like his little boys.

The Bible calls for it. Granted, Christians nor Jews actually call for it these days, these days. All 3 Religions advocate that Homosexuality is an abomination though.

No BS.
 

boomerang

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History, Google it.
I don't need to Google anything. You're trying to create a correlation between how things were and how things are. How religion operated centuries ago in other countries has no relevance to how things are in a country founded on the separation of church and state. Your argument is disingenuous and frankly reflects poorly on you.

This is why I don't get into too many discussions around here. People like yourself keep attempting to make points that are moronic in nature. Why should one even waste their time with a response?
 

Dulanic

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Oh, Bull Shit!

Please tell me one Christian, Jewish or any other religion that calles for the killing of homosexuals.

Damn, you're funny.

What happens to those homosexuals that I'm-a-dinner-jacket says they don't have in Iran when they actually catch one. I'll give you a hint....they don't pray for them.

Now granted that "more-ham-it" guy did like his little boys.

There are extremists for EVERY religion.

http://ekspoze.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/christianity-calls-for-death-penalty-for-gays/
 

Jaskalas

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Just goes to show how far right the republican party has become. Most of the last few Republican Presidents of a few decades ago wouldn't stand a chance of their own party's nomination now.

They better not. McCain and Bush were not conservatives. They betrayed it every chance they got.
 

Dulanic

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Oh, Bull Shit!

Please tell me one Christian, Jewish or any other religion that calles for the killing of homosexuals.

Damn, you're funny.

What happens to those homosexuals that I'm-a-dinner-jacket says they don't have in Iran when they actually catch one. I'll give you a hint....they don't pray for them.

Now granted that "more-ham-it" guy did like his little boys.

http://bible.cc/leviticus/20-13.htm

'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
 
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nyker96

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republican harbors some really interesting creatures who combine multiple contradictions without even knowing it. like this black candidate who supports racial/religious discrimination or the 65 year old tea partier who wish to lower national debt but not want to lower their SS benefits. most of these things are so contradictory you wonder people who supports them must have compartmentalized the two half of themselves to never meet each other.
 

a777pilot

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LOL!

I love this. Words from over 2000 years ago but no, not one, major religion, actually, today, calls for the death of homosexuals.....other than islam. So gays love islam. Now that's funny.
 

boomerang

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republican harbors some really interesting creatures who combine multiple contradictions without even knowing it. like this black candidate who supports racial/religious discrimination or the 65 year old tea partier who wish to lower national debt but not want to lower their SS benefits. most of these things are so contradictory you wonder people who supports them must have compartmentalized the two half of themselves to never meet each other.
Here's some contradictions for ya bucko.

10 Steps to Understanding How Liberals Think

Satire
The liberal brain does not collect and process information in a logical, reasonable, and objective manner. Rather, liberal thinking is dominated by an obsession with power, and use of that power to preserve elitist advantages.

This distorted perspective makes it very difficult to understand exactly how liberals think without advanced training in Abnormal Psychology.Nonetheless, the following non-technical summary should be useful to lay people.
How liberals think on 10 major issues of the day:
1. The U.S. Constitution Is Unconstitutional

According to liberal dogma, the Declaration of Independence, U.S. Constitution, and Bill of Rights are unconstitutional because all were crafted by an exclusive conclave of white male Christians.
Women, Hispanics, African-Americans, Asians, gays, lesbians, transsexuals, the handicapped, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, and the blind were all under represented, if at all.
Because of this devastating lack of diversity, the Constitution must be regarded as a “living document,” subject to change in accordance with ever changing demographics and contemporary values.
2. Free Speech

Freedom of speech must never be quashed, except for criticism directed at minorities and sensitive constituencies of the Democrat party.
Burning Old Glory is protected free speech, whereas expressions of conservative values by people like Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage are unacceptable “hate speech,” which must be subjected to “fairness” censoring by the federal government.
3. Abortion, the Death Penalty and Assisted Suicide

On issues of life and death, liberals are especially vulnerable to tripping on their own hypocritical double talk.
Namely:
A woman’s right to abort the life of an innocent child is inalienable; whereas execution of a convicted killer is cruel, unusual & barbaric.
Starving a helpless victim like Terri Schaivo to death is acceptable; but using lethal injection to end the life of a brutal killer is not.

4. Religion

Religious faith and belief in God are outdated pagan concepts, which do more harm than good. Sophisticated citizens can rely on the Democrat party for support from cradle to grave, obviating the need to rely on beliefs and rituals long since debunked.
Symbols of Christianity such as the Ten Commandments, the Cross, Christmas trees, nativity scenes, and the like must be hidden from public view so as to offend no one.
Publicly wishing a friend or family member “Merry Christmas” is clearly an act of civil disobedience and unconstitutional.
While Christianity is to be suppressed at all costs, Islam must be openly promoted in the name of religious awareness, sensitivity and tolerance.
The separation of state and government applies fully when dealing with Christianity or Judaism, but is irrelevant with regard to Islam and all other religions.
Delivery of Christmas cards and gifts by the United States Postal Service is an unconstitutional violation of state-religion separation and must end immediately.
5. Taxes

Leveling the playing field between haves and have-nots is the most important function of government, even more critical than national security.
To support that objective, no government role is more essential than levying and collecting taxes, otherwise known as redistribution of wealth.
Tax cuts are wrong when returned to people who actually paid taxes, but are perfectly fine when sent to those who paid none.
Although most liberals deny that Jesus even lived, many use the quote in Matthew 22:21, “Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s…” to justify higher taxes.
Paying taxes is the “Christian Conservative” thing to do!
6. Marriage and Same-Sex Issues

The traditional American family consisting of one man and one woman is just one of several possible arrangements, all of which are equally moral and acceptable.
Marriage is no longer necessary to sanctify man-woman relationships.
Although the institution of marriage is no longer vital to heterosexual partners, it is absolutely essential that same-sex couples be allowed to marry. To deny them that basic right is discriminatory, immoral, unfair, and clearly unconstitutional.
7 Racism, Diversity and Affirmative Action

Liberals believe that discrimination based on race or gender is wrong. Except when waged against Caucasian men, in which case it is mandated by law and called Affirmative Action.
“Our Diversity Is our Greatest Strength” is the liberal pledge of allegiance to socialism.
Enforcing U.S. borders and immigration laws, including deportation of illegal aliens, is wrong because it targets Hispanics, obviously based on racial profiling.
Those who support English as the official language of America are racists. But those who prefer Spanish and other foreign languages over English are not because of the inherent value of diversity.
Conservatives who seek to preserve American language and culture are bigoted hate mongers, whereas new immigrants, including illegal aliens, must be allowed to maintain and celebrate their cultural heritage at all costs, even if it interferes with assimilation into mainstream America.
8. Preserving the American Dream for Working Class Americans

According to liberal propaganda, they are the only hope for American families, notwithstanding the fact that Democrats support the influx of millions of illegal aliens who work for lower wages and without benefits, and drive down the standard of living for working families.
Skyrocketing gasoline prices devastate working American families, but protecting Alaskan wild life is a greater priority.
Businesses are oppressive institutions that must not be allowed to become too large and powerful. By contrast, government creates wealth & happiness and should be expanded whenever possible.
Outsourcing of American jobs to foreign nations is driven by immoral corporate greed.
By contrast, open borders and amnesty are acceptable because most illegal aliens are future Democrats.
Huge profits are obscene and un-American, except when enjoyed by Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, George Soros, Oprah Winfrey, Ted Turner, and other liberals.
9. Global Warming, the Environment, and Energy Independence

According to liberal technocrats like Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, Katie Couric, and Dennis Kucinich, global warming is a greater threat to the health and well being of humanity than the war on terror.
Some liberal extremists even think that the colors of the American flag should be changed to green, white, and blue so as to reflect the importance of the environment to our nation, while simultaneously deleting the color red, which symbolizes blood shed in illegal wars waged by Bushes 41 and 43.
10. Use of Military Force, Invading Foreign Nations

Military force must never be used, except when needed to advance interests not vital to the United States, or to obscure a Democrat president’s sexual misconduct in the Oval Office.
Invading a foreign nation is wrong, except when aliens from Mexico invade America.

Understanding liberal thinking is probably more trouble than it is worth. The more prudent action would be to take all necessary steps to assure that liberals are not elected or reelected to political office.
 

CanOWorms

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LOL!

I love this. Words from over 2000 years ago but no, not one, major religion, actually, today, calls for the death of homosexuals.....other than islam. So gays love islam. Now that's funny.

Lots of Christians call for the death of homosexuals today. As a recent example, see the proposed Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill that was subject to much scrutiny recently.
 

Dulanic

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Lots of Christians call for the death of homosexuals today. As a recent example, see the proposed Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill that was subject to much scrutiny recently.

But that doesn't count! It doesn't fit his agenda.
 

Paul98

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The left tells us that the traditional American family consisting of one man and one woman is just one of several possible arrangements, all of which are equally moral and acceptable.

They tell us that marriage is no longer necessary to sanctify man-woman relationships.

Although the institution of marriage is no longer vital to heterosexual partners, it is absolutely essential that same-sex couples be allowed to marry. To deny them that basic right is discriminatory, immoral, unfair, and clearly unconstitutional. That's what we hear.

Marriage can be attained without religion. A justice of the peace, or a judge for example can legally marry people. Religion and marriage are not mutually exclusive.



And then from your link
The traditional American family consisting of one man and one woman is just one of several possible arrangements, all of which are equally moral and acceptable.
Marriage is no longer necessary to sanctify man-woman relationships.
Although the institution of marriage is no longer vital to heterosexual partners, it is absolutely essential that same-sex couples be allowed to marry. To deny them that basic right is discriminatory, immoral, unfair, and clearly unconstitutional.


That article isn't supposed to be taken seriously. And why did you just copy and paste that before then post it again where you copied it from?
 

a777pilot

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Lots of Christians call for the death of homosexuals today. As a recent example, see the proposed Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Bill that was subject to much scrutiny recently.


Uganda? Reqally? Uganda? You've got to be kidding me. Uganda? That's the best you can come up with in the entire world? Uganda?

ROFLMAO!
 

Red Dawn

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"Last week, Cain, who is Christian, referred to the planned Murfreesboro mosque as an "infringement and an abuse of our freedom of religion"



How is this guy in the race again? Wow.
Well he does represent their values to a tee.
 

her209

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Marriage can be attained without religion. A justice of the peace, or a judge for example can legally marry people. Religion and marriage are not mutually exclusive.
Which brings up an interesting question. Can a judge refuse to marry gays based on his personal faith?
 

a777pilot

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Well he does represent their values to a tee.

Freedom of religion does not mean because something is proposed by a so called religion, in this case, islam, that the rest of us in this nation has to been over and grab our ankles and say....Ok, now fuck us.
 

CanOWorms

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Uganda? Reqally? Uganda? You've got to be kidding me. Uganda? That's the best you can come up with in the entire world? Uganda?

ROFLMAO!

Yes, Uganda, where many Christians, including American backers of the bill, tried to have homosexuals slaughtered.

I don't see any statement claiming that it's the best. It's simply one example. I imagine many socially conservative countries with large Christian populations have people seeking the death of homosexuals.
 

a777pilot

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Yes, Uganda, where many Christians, including American backers of the bill, tried to have homosexuals slaughtered.

I don't see any statement claiming that it's the best. It's simply one example. I imagine many socially conservative countries with large Christian populations have people seeking the death of homosexuals.

Could be but all you could find was Uganda.

Oh, by the way, was that bill passed into law?
 

Red Dawn

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Freedom of religion does not mean because something is proposed by a so called religion, in this case, islam, that the rest of us in this nation has to been over and grab our ankles and say....Ok, now fuck us.

We've done it with Chrsitianity, in a lot of cases literally
 

CanOWorms

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Could be but all you could find was Uganda.

I wasn't aware that I did a search. That is simply a prominent movement from a year or two ago. Moreover, I don't see how you can simply brush it away just because of the country.

Oh, by the way, was that bill passed into law?

It's been shelved, possibly to come up soon though, because of intense international criticism. However, I don't think that is relevant to your statement.