A Big "I Told You So" from Me to You

eits

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like i've said many, many times before to the conservatives and neocons in this forum who kept talking about us invading iran over the development of nukes or the threat to israel or getting ahmadinejad out of power, etc, the iranian people will fix their own country. it isn't our place to interfere. iirc, about a year or two ago, i gave it about four or five years for there to be a revolt against the government.

no one believed me at the time, but here we are.

i just wanted to toot my own horn :)
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: eits
like i've said many, many times before to the conservatives and neocons in this forum who kept talking about us invading iran over the development of nukes or the threat to israel or getting ahmadinejad out of power, etc, the iranian people will fix their own country. it isn't our place to interfere. iirc, about a year or two ago, i gave it about four or five years for there to be a revolt against the government.

no one believed me at the time, but here we are.

i just wanted to toot my own horn :)

"Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"

Republicans.txt
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: eits
like i've said many, many times before to the conservatives and neocons in this forum who kept talking about us invading iran over the development of nukes or the threat to israel or getting ahmadinejad out of power, etc, the iranian people will fix their own country. it isn't our place to interfere. iirc, about a year or two ago, i gave it about four or five years for there to be a revolt against the government.

no one believed me at the time, but here we are.

i just wanted to toot my own horn :)
Could you provide me an example of someone suggesting that we 'invade' Iran.

And BTW the revolution has yet to succeed.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: eits
like i've said many, many times before to the conservatives and neocons in this forum who kept talking about us invading iran over the development of nukes or the threat to israel or getting ahmadinejad out of power, etc, the iranian people will fix their own country. it isn't our place to interfere. iirc, about a year or two ago, i gave it about four or five years for there to be a revolt against the government.

no one believed me at the time, but here we are.

i just wanted to toot my own horn :)

"Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"

Republicans.txt

Isn't it proof of the Neocon message?

The "I told you so" seems to be that there is an opposition for us to install as the new Iranian government, should we go in and blow the hell out of the current regime.
 

Sacrilege

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I know one thing.... Republicans seem to be scared.

Scared that if the government of Iran falls and a more friendly regime is set up, they'll loose one of their boogey men.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
like i've said many, many times before to the conservatives and neocons in this forum who kept talking about us invading iran over the development of nukes or the threat to israel or getting ahmadinejad out of power, etc, the iranian people will fix their own country. it isn't our place to interfere. iirc, about a year or two ago, i gave it about four or five years for there to be a revolt against the government.

no one believed me at the time, but here we are.

i just wanted to toot my own horn :)
Could you provide me an example of someone suggesting that we 'invade' Iran.

And BTW the revolution has yet to succeed.

use search and read through all the threads yourself. i'm not gonna do your work because you haven't been paying attention.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: Sacrilege
I know one thing.... Republicans seem to be scared.

Scared that if the government of Iran falls and a more friendly regime is set up, they'll loose one of their boogey men.

really? who?
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
like i've said many, many times before to the conservatives and neocons in this forum who kept talking about us invading iran over the development of nukes or the threat to israel or getting ahmadinejad out of power, etc, the iranian people will fix their own country. it isn't our place to interfere. iirc, about a year or two ago, i gave it about four or five years for there to be a revolt against the government.

no one believed me at the time, but here we are.

i just wanted to toot my own horn :)
Could you provide me an example of someone suggesting that we 'invade' Iran.

And BTW the revolution has yet to succeed.

use search and read through all the threads yourself. i'm not gonna do your work because you haven't been paying attention.

http://www.google.com/search?s...Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

all I see are people talking about how much republicans want to invade Iran... and no republicans actually advocating such an invasion.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: Sacrilege
I know one thing.... Republicans seem to be scared.

Scared that if the government of Iran falls and a more friendly regime is set up, they'll loose one of their boogey men.

nah, i disagree. i think republicans want this regime gone for the same reason we all do... but they want it gone in a different way. they seem to want us to get involved in other peoples' business. what they don't realize is that EVERY TIME we've gotten involved in shit that isn't our business, we end up burned (i.e., iran-iraq war/iran contra, helping ahmadinejad get elected, vietnam war, iraq war, mujaheddin, soviet-afghan war/taliban, etc).

the bottom line is that the iranian people need to do this for themselves...
 

eits

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
like i've said many, many times before to the conservatives and neocons in this forum who kept talking about us invading iran over the development of nukes or the threat to israel or getting ahmadinejad out of power, etc, the iranian people will fix their own country. it isn't our place to interfere. iirc, about a year or two ago, i gave it about four or five years for there to be a revolt against the government.

no one believed me at the time, but here we are.

i just wanted to toot my own horn :)
Could you provide me an example of someone suggesting that we 'invade' Iran.

And BTW the revolution has yet to succeed.

use search and read through all the threads yourself. i'm not gonna do your work because you haven't been paying attention.

http://www.google.com/search?s...Google+Search&aq=f&oq=

all I see are people talking about how much republicans want to invade Iran... and no republicans actually advocating such an invasion.

huh? i didn't say anything about invading iran now. i'm talking about the many posts like a year or two ago where people said bush needed to start invading iran.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: loki8481
wait, who advocated an invasion of Iran again?

"Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"

Republicans.txt

phokusisretarded.txt

neo-cons? lokiisadumbfuck.txt

where? who?

Are you retarded?

http://vodpod.com/watch/703973...-we-must-bomb-iran-now

http://www.commentarymagazine....for-bombing-iran-10882

http://www.latimes.com/news/op...oll=la-home-commentary

http://jta.org/news/article/20...-remove-iranian-regime


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: eits
huh? i didn't say anything about invading iran now. i'm talking about the many posts like a year or two ago where people said bush needed to start invading iran.
And yet you can't find an example of that happening... why is that??

I don't recall any of us on the right advocating an invasion of Iran.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
huh? i didn't say anything about invading iran now. i'm talking about the many posts like a year or two ago where people said bush needed to start invading iran.
And yet you can't find an example of that happening... why is that??

I don't recall any of us on the right advocating an invasion of Iran.

? when did i say i couldn't? i said i wouldn't. it's your job.

i already know for a fact that you conservatives have made the argument that we need to go to war with iran... there are threads about it. and i know that i've argued that iran will fix its own problems and that there'd be a revolution in the near future because 80% or so of iran hated their government. aimster said the same thing.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
huh? i didn't say anything about invading iran now. i'm talking about the many posts like a year or two ago where people said bush needed to start invading iran.
And yet you can't find an example of that happening... why is that??

I don't recall any of us on the right advocating an invasion of Iran.

Don't worry, your corwardly neo-con brothers were doing your dirty work for you in newspapers and tv
 

yllus

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Last I checked, the Guardian Council was still intact and Iran was still a dictatorship. What fix have the Iranians managed to accomplish that you are "telling us so" about? Are you predicting the imminent downfall of the Islamic regime in Iran?
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: loki8481
wait, who advocated an invasion of Iran again?

"Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"

Republicans.txt

phokusisretarded.txt

neo-cons? lokiisadumbfuck.txt

where? who?

Are you retarded?

http://vodpod.com/watch/703973...-we-must-bomb-iran-now

http://www.commentarymagazine....for-bombing-iran-10882

http://www.latimes.com/news/op...oll=la-home-commentary

http://jta.org/news/article/20...-remove-iranian-regime


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
Those are all about bombing Iran.

The OP claims we spoke of INVADING Iran. There is a slight difference.

The US has a long history of bombing belligerent countries.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
huh? i didn't say anything about invading iran now. i'm talking about the many posts like a year or two ago where people said bush needed to start invading iran.
And yet you can't find an example of that happening... why is that??

I don't recall any of us on the right advocating an invasion of Iran.
? when did i say i couldn't? i said i wouldn't. it's your job.

i already know for a fact that you conservatives have made the argument that we need to go to war with iran... there are threads about it. and i know that i've argued that iran will fix its own problems and that there'd be a revolution in the near future because 80% or so of iran hated their government. aimster said the same thing.
No, you made the claim now you back it up.

Unless you can provide proof of what you said we can all safely assume that you are lying.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: loki8481
wait, who advocated an invasion of Iran again?

"Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"

Republicans.txt

phokusisretarded.txt

neo-cons? lokiisadumbfuck.txt

where? who?

Are you retarded?

http://vodpod.com/watch/703973...-we-must-bomb-iran-now

http://www.commentarymagazine....for-bombing-iran-10882

http://www.latimes.com/news/op...oll=la-home-commentary

http://jta.org/news/article/20...-remove-iranian-regime


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg
Those are all about bombing Iran.

The OP claims we spoke of INVADING Iran. There is a slight difference.

The US has a long history of bombing belligerent countries.

The conservative estimates are 1500 bombs being dropped:

http://www.latimes.com/news/op...oll=la-home-commentary

With actual numbers being considerably more:

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot...war-plan-for-iran.html

(plus plans to bomb infrastructure, send in special forces to seize oil wells etc.)

Also in several of the links, they talk about an overthrow of the government

And this is what the CIA says about the bombing campaing:

??The U.S. capability to make a mess of Iran?s nuclear infrastructure is formidable,? says veteran Mideast analyst Geoffrey Kemp. ?The question is, what then?? NEWSWEEK has learned that the CIA and DIA have war-gamed the likely consequences of a U.S. pre-emptive strike on Iran?s nuclear facilities. No one liked the outcome. As an Air Force source tells it, ?The war games were unsuccessful at preventing the conflict from escalating.??

You're. Retarded.
 

eits

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Originally posted by: yllus
Last I checked, the Guardian Council was still intact and Iran was still a dictatorship. What fix have the Iranians managed to accomplish that you are "telling us so" about? Are you predicting the imminent downfall of the Islamic regime in Iran?

yup... i'm about 80% sure the regime is gonna fall.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Phokus
The conservative estimates are 1500 bombs being dropped:

http://www.latimes.com/news/op...oll=la-home-commentary

With actual numbers being considerably more:

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot...war-plan-for-iran.html

(plus plans to bomb infrastructure, send in special forces to seize oil wells etc.)

Also in several of the links, they talk about an overthrow of the government

And this is what the CIA says about the bombing campaing:

??The U.S. capability to make a mess of Iran?s nuclear infrastructure is formidable,? says veteran Mideast analyst Geoffrey Kemp. ?The question is, what then?? NEWSWEEK has learned that the CIA and DIA have war-gamed the likely consequences of a U.S. pre-emptive strike on Iran?s nuclear facilities. No one liked the outcome. As an Air Force source tells it, ?The war games were unsuccessful at preventing the conflict from escalating.??

You're. Retarded.
You are using a blog as proof that we were going to invade Iran??

Are you that stupid...
 

eits

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: eits
huh? i didn't say anything about invading iran now. i'm talking about the many posts like a year or two ago where people said bush needed to start invading iran.
And yet you can't find an example of that happening... why is that??

I don't recall any of us on the right advocating an invasion of Iran.
? when did i say i couldn't? i said i wouldn't. it's your job.

i already know for a fact that you conservatives have made the argument that we need to go to war with iran... there are threads about it. and i know that i've argued that iran will fix its own problems and that there'd be a revolution in the near future because 80% or so of iran hated their government. aimster said the same thing.
No, you made the claim now you back it up.

Unless you can provide proof of what you said we can all safely assume that you are lying.

uh, no. the safe assumption, based on common knowledge of these forums, is that you guys were talking about taking military action to overthrow the regime because of the nuclear program and testing. i argued against it and said that the government will fall by iran's own people and you need to let iran do it themselves, otherwise there'll be a huge backlash against america.

look it up for yourself. i don't really have time to sift through hundreds of posts. if you didn't pay attention to the threads and arguments posted within the last year or two about iran, that's your fault, not mine... therefore, you need to go back and look it up for yourself.

if you go to a 303 class and challenge the professor over common knowledge that you didn't pay attention to in a 101 class, the professor will tell you go back and read up on it for yourself. only an idiot would assume that he was lying. the same thing applies here... you need to go back and look for yourself... don't be an idiot.
 

bamacre

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I cannot recall anyone calling for an invasion of Iran. Maybe a troll?

The only things most have called for, or supported, are economic sanctions, and/or possible strikes against nuclear installations. But these ideas, and aggression toward Iran in general, were not bound to one party. The only people who have called for leaving Iran alone are those non-interventionists that some like to call "isolationists." Or, also aka, Paulbots, Paultards.