A 1,000 Point Drop On The Dow?

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Tuesday could bring a 1,000 point drop on the Dow, especially if markets in Asia and Europe repeat their Monday performances tomorrow. China's big Hang Seng index fell 5.5% to 23,818. The percentage drop in Shanghai was a bit less.

Europe markets have also been off over 5% most of the day with the German DAXX and French CAC 40 leading the way. Huge multinational Siemens (SI) has fallen as much as 7.3%. French financial services giant AXA (AXA) has been off almost 8%.

A 6% drop on the Dow tomorrow would be almost 750 points. If concerns over a US recession and the lack of real solutions in the Bush economic stimulation plan rattle the markets more Dow components like Citigroup (C), JP Morgan (JPM), and American Express (AXP) could be hit especially hard.

Bank of America (BAC) and Apple (AAPL) report tomorrow. If the market thinks those companies might report below consensus the shares could be pushed down early.

For the Dow to drop 1,000 points it would have to sell of 8%. On October 19, 1987 the index sold off over 22% and it lost 7% of its value in one trading day on both September 21, 2001 and April 14, 2000.

With the deep concerns with the market, it could happen again.

Douglas A. McIntyre





I would HOPE something like this wouldn't happen. But saw it and figured I'd let you guys take a whack at it.
 

Duddy

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Also, trading on DOW, S&P and NASDAQ futures have been locked till the NYSE opens. They tripped the limit controls. Last happened in 2000 during the tech wreck.


That would be the "Oh sh!t" alert.
 

theeedude

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http://money.cnn.com/data/premarket/frankfurt/?

It's gonna happen. These European markets are down huge 2 days in a row, about 5% each day. :(

Well, good thing is I am all cash and some gold, so I will take a small hit, but not huge. :) The bad thing is I got out of my ultra short funds too early :(
Of course the good thing is I made close to 40% on those since August anyways. :) But then the bad thing is I could have made another 10%+ if I stayed an extra couple weeks :(
 

CalvinHobbes

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I'm guessing the people who write these articles are shorting as much as they can and trying to create panic so they can laugh all the way to the bank.
 

StageLeft

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It won't drop 1000 today. I am predicting somewhere in the 200's, which I realize is very conservative compared to places like india, which lost over 10% and had to close its market early.
 

Engineer

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Already 400 down and that's with a 3/4 point FED cut.

Edit: 30 seconds later 467 down.

Edit: 10 seconds later 506 down.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Already 400 down and that's with a 3/4 point FED cut.

Edit: 30 seconds later 467 down.

Edit: 10 seconds later 506 down.
hahaha

 

1EZduzit

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beer

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Down <300, <3.0%.

I never understood people who fail to decouple our already-lagging economy with the bubble that has been emerging markets. No way we'd be down 10%, given that we've already taken a much bigger % hit this year and the ROR of emerging markets had them due for a significant correction.
 

blackangst1

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Yummy for buyers :) Bad for day traders. My monthly buy happens on the 31st, so hopefully it will fall even further

/crosses fingers

Oh and crude is down too. I guess thats bad too?
 

Duddy

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And in the other thread I created, I totally called it when I said that the fed would cut the interest rate this morning.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
OMG!!! DOW is down!!!! <panic>

Oh wait - it's only down ~75. Stupid chicken littles...

And just where would it be without the Fed dropping the rate 3/4 point today?

Devaluation of your money and inflation FTW!
 

Duddy

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
OMG!!! DOW is down!!!! <panic>

Oh wait - it's only down ~75. Stupid chicken littles...

And just where would it be without the Fed dropping the rate 3/4 point today?

Devaluation of your money and inflation FTW!

Beat me to it! LOL Pwned!
 

GrGr

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Well the emergency Fed rate cut just switched the focus from the ongoing DJ meltdown to the dollar meltdown. The dollar lost over 1 % of it's value today.

 

Duddy

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Originally posted by: GrGr
Well the emergency Fed rate cut just switched the focus from the ongoing DJ meltdown to the dollar meltdown. The dollar lost over 1 % of it's value today.

Yeah, the rate cut is helpful now but it's stinging effects will be felt in the near future.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
OMG!!! DOW is down!!!! <panic>

Oh wait - it's only down ~75. Stupid chicken littles...

And just where would it be without the Fed dropping the rate 3/4 point today?

Devaluation of your money and inflation FTW!

But I thought it was all crashing down! That's what everyone's been saying. DOOM DOOM DOOM yet it didn't happen. Now shifting the "blame" to devalution once again... just a diversion tactic by the headless chickens once again.


DOOM!!!! DOOM!!!!! DOOM!!!!! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!!!!


:roll:
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
OMG!!! DOW is down!!!! <panic>

Oh wait - it's only down ~75. Stupid chicken littles...

And just where would it be without the Fed dropping the rate 3/4 point today?

Devaluation of your money and inflation FTW!

But I thought it was all crashing down! That's what everyone's been saying. DOOM DOOM DOOM yet it didn't happen. Now shifting the "blame" to devalution once again... just a diversion tactic by the headless chickens once again.


DOOM!!!! DOOM!!!!! DOOM!!!!! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!!!!


:roll:


Listen here, I don't give a shit if you want to blow sunshine up your own ass or not. Wages, including mine are decreasing with inflation and now the damn market is kicking the shit out of my returns and is now negative for the entire term that dipshit has been in office. Maybe if we had someone in DC that gave a shit about the fiscal condition of this country instead of spending into the ground and running a war tabe along free trading it out of the country, we could all be happier.

If you don't like it, tough shit. Go blow bubbles in the park for all I give a fuck.