_____Barbarossa Day plans on the 22nd?_____

BoomerD

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No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.
 
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I remember reading about Operation Barbarossa a few yrs back; very vague to me now. Dang, can't even remember the author.... wait, its comin.... Stephen E. Ambrose (i cheated)
 

techs

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I usually plan on invading a small, unprepared country with limited means to fight back.
This year, Canada.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: techs
I usually plan on invading a small, unprepared country with limited means to fight back.
This year, Canada.

Don't forget...Canuckistan has THE TANK...and rumors say it's out of the shop this week...

Y'know, celebrating a more-or-less unknown battle between two non-US countries makes absolutely no sense for us Americans...kind of like Cinco de Mayo...


HEY! A reason to drink copious amounts of German Beer!

I'm good with that idea!
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

If you're a WWII history buff at all, it's highly significant.

Two books that I'd recommend that discuss it in some detail
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I shall drink vodka.
 

Gibsons

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: techs
I usually plan on invading a small, unprepared country with limited means to fight back.
This year, Canada.

Don't forget...Canuckistan has THE TANK...and rumors say it's out of the shop this week...

Y'know, celebrating a more-or-less unknown battle between two non-US countries makes absolutely no sense for us Americans...kind of like Cinco de Mayo...


HEY! A reason to drink copious amounts of German Beer!

I'm good with that idea!

I'd say it's a good candidate for biggest military blunder of the entire war. There's a lot of competition for that title, but this one has a much larger scale than most.
 

PottedMeat

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Originally posted by: techs
I usually plan on invading a small, unprepared country with limited means to fight back.

You mean try to take a large unprepared country with your troops underprepared for the weather?
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

I am an American with Russian ancestry. This is the first I've heard of it and I'm considerably interested in reading more about it.

Thanks for posting it, Blain. :)
 

CallMeJoe

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Raise a glass of Chianti in a hearty toast to Benito Mussolini tomorrow. His misadventures in Greece (and the resultant German bailout of the Italian army, Google "Operation
Marita") delayed the start of Barbarossa by 4 to six weeks... without that delay, German troops could have seized Moscow in the 1941 campaign, effectively crippling the Soviet army by severing rail transport in Europe.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: techs
I usually plan on invading a small, unprepared country with limited means to fight back.

You mean try to take a large unprepared country with your troops underprepared for the weather?
I ain't afraid of hockey sticks.

 

Blain

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

I am an American with Russian ancestry. This is the first I've heard of it and I'm considerably interested in reading more about it.

Thanks for posting it, Blain. :)
It seemed a better topic posting than something like... "I saw a boobie last night" :laugh:

 

Nik

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Originally posted by: Blain
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

I am an American with Russian ancestry. This is the first I've heard of it and I'm considerably interested in reading more about it.

Thanks for posting it, Blain. :)
It seemed a better topic posting than something like... "I saw a boobie last night" :laugh:

Actually, I saw 2 very large and tatooed boobies two nights ago :Q
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Blain
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

I am an American with Russian ancestry. This is the first I've heard of it and I'm considerably interested in reading more about it.

Thanks for posting it, Blain. :)
It seemed a better topic posting than something like... "I saw a boobie last night" :laugh:

Actually, I saw 2 very large and tatooed boobies two nights ago :Q
In the mirror.

 

MrMatt

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Originally posted by: techs
I usually plan on invading a small, unprepared country with limited means to fight back.
This year, Canada.

hahhahahahhahahhahahhahaha I love it.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

If you're a WWII history buff at all, it's highly significant.

Two books that I'd recommend that discuss it in some detail
Text
Text

I shall drink vodka.

Maybe it's because I've enjoyed studying World War II in various courses, but Operation Barbarossa never seemed like it could be an unknown invasion. Then again, I should realize I've had to study most aspects of WWII quite in depth, and the U.S. wasn't involved in any way, so I guess it makes sense to be somewhat unknown to anyone who has avoided the history of WWII and the nations involved.

edit:
oh, and I'm out of ????????? :(
 

techs

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

If you're a WWII history buff at all, it's highly significant.

Two books that I'd recommend that discuss it in some detail
Text
Text

I shall drink vodka.

Maybe it's because I've enjoyed studying World War II in various courses, but Operation Barbarossa never seemed like it could be an unknown invasion. Then again, I should realize I've had to study most aspects of WWII quite in depth, and the U.S. wasn't involved in any way, so I guess it makes sense to be somewhat unknown to anyone who has avoided the history of WWII and the nations involved.

edit:
oh, and I'm out of ????????? :(

I actually just got thru reading Moscow 1812. It's absolutely amazing that Hitler made exactly the same mistakes as Napoleon.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

If you're a WWII history buff at all, it's highly significant.

Two books that I'd recommend that discuss it in some detail
Text
Text

I shall drink vodka.

Maybe it's because I've enjoyed studying World War II in various courses, but Operation Barbarossa never seemed like it could be an unknown invasion. Then again, I should realize I've had to study most aspects of WWII quite in depth, and the U.S. wasn't involved in any way, so I guess it makes sense to be somewhat unknown to anyone who has avoided the history of WWII and the nations involved.

edit:
oh, and I'm out of ????????? :(

I actually just got thru reading Moscow 1812. It's absolutely amazing that Hitler made exactly the same mistakes as Napoleon.

The same mistakes are made time and time again. The types of minds that tend to obsess with power are greatly influenced by any and all attention to themselves, ignore the concept that they can make mistakes, push all blame of any wrongdoing or unforeseen consequences onto subordinates, and most importantly, ignore history.

All of the most powerful fall essentially at their own undoing, history has proved this and its quite telling to state it'll happen again.

On a related but different note, history is repeating in Islam, and it'll be interesting to see what lengths the radicals will go to and if they find success or failure in the similar rise of Christianity. Different methods but all in the same pattern and ideological purpose, aiming for the same results with each action.
 

paulney

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It's the day of infamy for Russians, kind of like Pearl Harbor. Typically there's nothing special going on - just remembrance. It was a bit somber when I was a kid, but as years pass and WWII fades away more and more, it's lost its significance to common folks. History buffs go ga-ga about it though.
 

Nik

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Blain
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

I am an American with Russian ancestry. This is the first I've heard of it and I'm considerably interested in reading more about it.

Thanks for posting it, Blain. :)
It seemed a better topic posting than something like... "I saw a boobie last night" :laugh:

Actually, I saw 2 very large and tatooed boobies two nights ago :Q
In the mirror.

:laugh:

Shens, I don't have tattoos! ;)

Actually, it was a rough night. That bitch tore the house up after her date passed out drunk on the living room floor. :roll: I spent an hour cleaning up after her, including some bathroom antics of hers. She will not be invited back, no matter how awesome her titties were.
 

Blain

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: Gibsons
Originally posted by: BoomerD
No, why should we?

I suppose perhaps those of Russian ancestry might...but it means nada to us Americans.

If you're a WWII history buff at all, it's highly significant.

Two books that I'd recommend that discuss it in some detail
Text
Text

I shall drink vodka.

Maybe it's because I've enjoyed studying World War II in various courses, but Operation Barbarossa never seemed like it could be an unknown invasion. Then again, I should realize I've had to study most aspects of WWII quite in depth, and the U.S. wasn't involved in any way, so I guess it makes sense to be somewhat unknown to anyone who has avoided the history of WWII and the nations involved.

edit:
oh, and I'm out of ????????? :(
About Frederick Barbarossa...
"When the ravens cease to fly round the mountain," said the legend, "Barbarossa shall awake and restore Germany to its ancient greatness."