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___ 5 gpm water flow enough for my house? ___ update > Filter Installed

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Blain

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I'm going to do some plumbing upgrades to my home. I'm going to install a main shut-off, check valve and whole house water filter in my utility room.
The whole house filter that I bought (but haven't installed), is the Omni U25 that's got a flow rating of 5 gpm.
I did consider the Omni BF7 with its 10 gpm flow rate. But the larger BF7 doesn't have a shut-off or by-pass valve.

I'm mainly going to filter for sediment to keep my new water heater and fixtures clean.

Is 5 gpm flow plenty for my 2 person, one bath, no pool or hot tub house?

Thanks... HAPPY PLUMBING 😀
 
Seems to me that with the advent of x86-64 that AMD and Microsoft ought to team up to try some new wrinkles with memory management. Instead of strictly setting memory management inside of each program with the OS loosely arranging the big picture, why not develop some new tricks for it? Seems like so many tasks are optimized for memory to be either serial or parrallel in nature. Imagine if the OS could address two separate memory memory types to optimize these differences. Add in motherboards with memory banks 0 and 1 supporting 200MHz DDR RAM while memory banks 2 and 3 would be for PC1200 RDRAM devices. The user would ultimately decide whether he wanted to load up on one memory type or the other, all the while enjoying the benefits of using each type of RAM. Perhaps this would be little more complicated than current dual-channel chipsets, where the chipset already switches back and forth between two separate memory channels to feed the main vein so to speak; the trick is apparently all in the buffering.

Now this idea isn't quite the NUMA approach that people have brought up in the past. And it would require support from BOTH hardware (memory and chipset) manufacturers and software (OS and applications) programmers to get it to work. What other hurdles do you engineers out there see in a design like this?
 
No way. One of our showers running uses exactly 5gpm (I have tested it due to having istalled an inline hot water heater). Add in another appliance and it's much more. The front yard alone is 10 gpm.
 
Originally posted by: Blain
I'm going to do some plumbing upgrades to my home. I'm going to install a main shut-off, check valve and whole house water filter in my utility room.
The whole house filter that I bought (but haven't installed), is the Omni U25 that's got a flow rating of 5 gpm.
I did consider the Omni BF7 with its 10 gpm flow rate. But the larger BF7 doesn't have a shut-off or by-pass valve.

I'm mainly going to filter for sediment to keep my new water heater and fixtures clean.

Is 5 gpm flow plenty for my 2 person, one bath, no pool or hot tub house?

Thanks... HAPPY PLUMBING 😀
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5gpm should be fine, and what are you filtering?
The only thing that you need to filter is your drinking water, and if you are concern with hard water & heavy metal such as iron stain then whole house system is required.

A single filter unit such as the one that you are looking at is not cost effective, because you have to replace the more expensive carbon block more often than needed.

A multi stage filters might be a better idea for the application that you are looking at: starting out with a 30 micron polypropylene ($8~12.00 ea) > then 20~15 micron polypropylene ($8~12.00 ea) > then 5 micron carbon block ($35~100 ea). (There are also various 2 step setup that you can look into)

The best method is to have 1 or 2 step set up of polypropylene for the whole house, then carbon block & reverse osmosis at the drinking tap which can be had for about $350.00 if you really look around for it. However, the sky is the limit depending on manufacture.

Make sure you ask & read the average volume delivery per filter cartridge before making the purchase and calculate it vs. the price/volume for the best investment. Best bet is to call your local water services dealer that deal with filters & pump and ask for addvice.

Good luck!


 
5 gpm for a shower! Man, you must have one heck of a shower!
Just kidding 😉

I do know that our shower head is a 2.5 gpm flow model. Oddly, after hearing about your 5 gpm flow... I feel cheated somehow. 😀

lowtech,
I'm not worried about filtering for taste, just sediment. We are located at the outer edge of our county. That basically puts us at the end of the city water service. I want to keep the trash out of the fixtures and water heater.
 
Originally posted by: Blain
5 gpm for a shower! Man, you must have one heck of a shower!
Just kidding 😉

I do know that our shower head is a 2.5 gpm flow model. Oddly, after hearing about your 5 gpm flow... I feel cheated somehow. 😀

lowtech,
I'm not worried about filtering for taste, just sediment. We are located at the outer edge of our county. That basically puts us at the end of the city water service. I want to keep the trash out of the fixtures and water heater.
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Thanks for clarify it, but when you are puting the efford into seting up the filters might as well get the taste filters in all on one go.

The parts to built a shut-off & bypass valve is about $10~20.00 that can be had at your local hardware store.
 
Originally posted by: Blain
5 gpm for a shower! Man, you must have one heck of a shower!
Just kidding 😉

I do know that our shower head is a 2.5 gpm flow model. Oddly, after hearing about your 5 gpm flow... I feel cheated somehow. 😀

lowtech,
I'm not worried about filtering for taste, just sediment. We are located at the outer edge of our county. That basically puts us at the end of the city water service. I want to keep the trash out of the fixtures and water heater.
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I wish blain, it's nothing that slick. I installed those fountain shower heads you find at home depot for around $50. You know the ones with like 300 holes and has and 8" head. Next thing is remove all flow limiting washers... I can take a shower in less a minute as fast as the soap comes off😉 It actaully saves water.
 
"The parts to built a shut-off & bypass valve is about $10~20.00 that can be had at your local hardware store."

I know, I bought about $75 worth of plumbing parts at Home Depot friday. It's always better to have what you need when doing plumbing work. I can return what I don't use. I've been in the "oops I need X fitting" boat before. Emergency runs to Lowes or Home Depot aren't appealing to me.

The larger BF7 really has me rethinking my filter choice. I installed an undercounter filter a few years ago to take care of our drinking water filtration.
 
"I installed those fountain shower heads"

Are you talking about a shower head like this one?

I have liked the looks of them but wasn't sure how functional they were. Thanks for the info. 😉
 
Yes it looks very similar but it's not fixed and sure as heck did'nt cost $350 from HomeDepot. Lemme see if I can find it at thier site...

Like this one but 8" not 6", HD does'nt have it on thier web site.

I like this quote "A Torrential Downpour of Cascading Showering Pleasure! " <<<olny after you remove the rubber washers IMO😉>>>
 
So you're into "tweaking" everything in your world? 😉
An "overclocked" shower head... a man after my own heart!
 
Originally posted by: lowtech
Thanks for the info. I haven't ever heard of 8"~12" shower head & only have used 5" one in the past.

4"~12" shower head @ $28~175 USD
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Great link lowtech thanks. IMO form the pictures, those are the best bang for your buck shower heads I've even seen. Nice materials and nice workmanship for a resonable price unlike the ANSTON stuff. (a wooden shower seat is $374)Text


 
Originally posted by: Blain
So you're into "tweaking" everything in your world? 😉
An "overclocked" shower head... a man after my own heart!
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Everything... Trucks, motorcycles, dunebuggy, sat TV😉 etcetcetc😛😛
 
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Originally posted by: lowtech
Thanks for the info. I haven't ever heard of 8"~12" shower head & only have used 5" one in the past.

4"~12" shower head @ $28~175 USD
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Great link lowtech thanks. IMO form the pictures, those are the best bang for your buck shower heads I've even seen. Nice materials and nice workmanship for a resonable price unlike the ANSTON stuff. (a wooden shower seat is $374)Text
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Your welcome. That sight brought back my fond memory as a child that get scolded for using up the all of the hot water....back then I often take shower up to an hour under the sunflower & watering can shower head at my home & at my grand parents home 🙂
 
I'm going to install a main shut-off, check valve
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Are you sure your house doesn't already have these? I'd be surprised if you don't already have a backflow preventer at your water meter (they're required here). You might also need to check your local codes...around here, any time you install a backflow prevention device you must obtain a $40 permit and have it inspected.

On to your question... 5gpm seems very low. I assume the flow rate will drop as the filter collects more and more debris? If you're in the shower and someone flushes the toilet or starts the washing machine, you might wish you had installed the 10gpm model 😀

 
"Are you sure your house doesn't already have these? I'd be surprised if you don't already have a backflow preventer at your water meter"

I'm sure. I woke up one afternoon after there was a main break in the line upstream from me. All I could hear was the water being sucked out of my water heater.
I do think they are required by code on new construction here.
 
Ugh. That's a dangerous situation...easy way to contaminate the entire area's water supply. For instance, underground sprinkler systems are generally required to have their own backflow preventers but most people don't put preventers on their garden hoses. Imagine a garden hose (or maybe one of those dripper/soaker hoses) laying in a puddle when the water main broke. That could suck fertilizer/weed killer/etc into the water supply 🙁

 
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