_-'""""Can society exist w/o money""""-_

[crrdsh]

This isn't like spraypainting the cat people, I am serious about this one...

Can society exist without money? and for that matter without any monetary replacement? Is it possible? Is that what Socialism is all about?

I really want to know since I don't have $$$🙂

 

[FoBoT]

no

what would be the incentive to do anything?

how would we all figure out who gets the most/best stuff?

why would i go to work if they didn't pay me?

😕

 

[iamwiz82]

There was a ducktales episode about this. Thats all i have to add.

 

[Spac3d]

I suppose if you paid people with sexual favors.

Otherwise no.

 

[dquan97]

like Star Trek?

 

[weezergirl]

THE BARTER SYSTEM!!!

 

[justint]

Originally posted by: crrdsh
This isn't like spraypainting the cat people, I am serious about this one...

Can society exist without money? and for that matter without any monetary replacement? Is it possible? Is that what Socialism is all about?

I really want to know since I don't have $$$🙂

what about Star Trek?

 

[ROTC1983]

Originally posted by: weezergirl
THE BARTER SYSTEM!!!

Would it work on such a grand scale though?

 

[Booster]

I want to live without money. Maybe I'd be a man then... Or at least a human, not some stinking mad parody. Well, just joking. I hate simple life, and comlex life is impossible without money or its equivalent, riches or something of what you have more than others and what gives you the buzz others can only dream of.

 

[Pastore]

Yeah, but everyone would have to be self sufficient. Meaning everyone would be harvesting their own corn and milking their own cows. But once you have money in a society, you can't take it out. But you could definitely make a society that didn't require money.

 

[MainFramed]

no

a cashless society would work however.....

 

[MainFramed]

Originally posted by: Spac3d
I suppose if you paid people with sexual favors.

Otherwise no.

ROFL

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Yes it can. Societies do exist without money. Our society can't exist without money, that's why you see people who haven't studied other cultures saying it's impossible. Existing without money is very difficult in societies with more than 400 people though (I believe that's the theoretical number).

edit: I'm not talking about bartering either. Many tribal societies are based on kinship.
Think about it this way.. if your brother came to you and asked for some fried chicken, would you charge him for it?

 

[StageLeft]

Yes but it's grossly inefficient.

 

[Platypus]

_-'""""iTs HaRd To SaY, yOu KnOw HoW fcKiNg AnNoYiNg ThIs Is?""""-_

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yes but it's grossly inefficient.

Exactly.

Money provides consistency, not to mention it's highly portable & easily stored.

Viper GTS

 

[Nohr]

I think people nowadays are far too greedy and self-centered for such a concept to be possible.

 

[SSP]

Originally posted by: Spac3d
I suppose if you paid people with sexual favors.

Otherwise no.

Woman will truly rule the world then.

 

[Queasy]

Could you imagine some of the ATOTers haggling their GeForce video cards and 512MB DDR ram modules for a couple of chickens?

I suppose RossMan and the other big Hot Deals forums posters would rule the world at that point.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Yes but it's grossly inefficient.

Exactly.

Money provides consistency, not to mention it's highly portable & easily stored.

Viper GTS

Three basic functions of money?

A medium of exchange, a unit of account and a store of value. I.e. money is portable, acceptable for settling any "public or private" debt, etc etc. It serves as a measure of one's level of wealth. It also stores value from present to future. The barter system is grossly inefficient and provides none of those three functions, as some have stated; Socialism is unrealistic - people need unique incentives, competition and reward to spur them to take risks in invention and innovation.

 

[Booster]

Woman will truly rule the world then.

As if they aren't ruling it right now 🙁 At least my world. I will always be a slave to a woman until I become dirt old but then I'll kill myself.

 

[zephyrprime]

edit: I'm not talking about bartering either. Many tribal societies are based on kinship.

I wonder about the limitations of such systems. It seems to me moneyless/barterless systems only work if:

1. everyone is poor so there isn't much stuff to be had one way or the other.
2. The things that people do have are very common. IE, I have a spear, you have a spear, everyone has a spear so no one would want to steal my spear.
3. Strong power heirarchy to beat you into shape or ostrasize you if you get out of line.

 

[yoda291]

RossMan would be a god. He'd be posting places where you could get a 512 mb stick of RAM for 2 chickens, then a place that'd give you the same stick of RAM for only one chicken! He'd corner both the RAM and chicken markets! I more than half suspect he owns half the internet already.

 

[LAUST]

.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: zephyrprime

edit: I'm not talking about bartering either. Many tribal societies are based on kinship.

I wonder about the limitations of such systems. It seems to me moneyless/barterless systems only work if:

1. everyone is poor so there isn't much stuff to be had one way or the other.
2. The things that people do have are very common. IE, I have a spear, you have a spear, everyone has a spear so no one would want to steal my spear.
3. Strong power heirarchy to beat you into shape or ostrasize you if you get out of line.

Yeah, but then you'd have the people who aren't happy with just having their spear. They will want your spear as well just so they can say they have two spears while you have none.