$99.99 refurb PCs @ NeweggFlash.com

[VirtualLarry]

New:
HP DC7900 Small PC Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0Ghz, 2GB, 80GB, Windows 7 Home Premium x64 Bit

$98.00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5962WD3512

SS, today only!

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[cbn]

That DC5800 with E8400, 2GB RAM and 160 GB HDD looks like a good deal for $79.99 AR free shipping. (I only wish it had Windows 7 64 bit rather than 32 bit.)

(The DC5800 has four DIMM slots so upgrading with the common 1GB DIMMs brings the RAM total to 4GB.)

P.S. For anyone interested the DC5800 also has four SATA ports (and I have found an SSD can be tucked just above the 3.5" HDD. The extra power connector is right there and available to use in that location as well).

 

[middlehead]

It's entirely possible that those e8400 5800 units came from my company. Decent machines for $100.

 

[cnccnc]

I use a similar series HP SFF PC as an HTPC. There is room for a half-height GPU that will accelerate h.264, as well as space for two drives, so you can SSD the OS and use a mechanical drive for storage. They're an excellent cheap HTPC solution if you're not gaming.

 

[loafbred]

(I only wish it had Windows 7 64 bit rather than 32 bit.)

Unless I'm mistaken, all Windows licenses allow use of either. I've changed from 32 to 64 bit several times with purchased OEM licenses. I think I've done it once or twice with manufactured PC's.

 

[sm625]

Slap a cheap video card in there and they make great moba boxes. It is sad that there is nothing new you can buy today that gives you the same price / performance.

 

[cbn]

For H.264 decode there is a Power Color HD5450 video card that usually goes on sale for $9.99 AR free shipping. However, I caution anyone buying Power Color to be very careful how the rebate form is filled out (example: do not mistakenly use Newegg's "Order details" as the invoice) because there are specific conditions listed in the instructions that can lead to disqualification.

 

[cbn]

For a cheap Xeon Quad core upgrade the Lenovo M58E fits the bill:

http://www.delidded.com/lga-771-to-775-adapter/3/#lenovo

I would go with a E5430 (equivalent to a Q9450, but with 80 watt TDP) for $12 shipped. It would need a LGA 771 to LGA 775 sticker (About $2 to $3) and the two little pieces of plastic cut out of the socket though.

With that mentioned, I do feel like the $99 price for the machine is a little high (that and it is a tower rather than SFF). $80 and under is a different story.

 

[cbn]

Slap a cheap video card in there and they make great moba boxes. It is sad that there is nothing new you can buy today that gives you the same price / performance.

I'm thinking for those that take the free OS upgrade (Windows 7 --> Windows 10), DX12 might breathe some new life into some of the quad cores (and even the E8400 to some degree).

Though with that mentioned, I wonder what ends up being the appropriately priced video card to pair with stock speed Core 2? Maybe we see some Pascal or new Maxwell based cards from Nvidia eventually make the appropriate price points?

Then how will these E8400/Core 2 quad/LGA 771 Xeon/"small Pascal or small Maxwell" combos compare to future Windows licensed machines? (Maybe a HP stream Mini type computer equipped with a ULV 2C/4T Skylake Pentium with 18 EUs and H.265 decode).


P.S. My guess is if we do we see a ULV 2C/4T Skylake Pentium (like we do with the ULV Broadwell 3825U Pentium) it will be priced at least $30 higher than ULV 2C/2T Skylake Celeron machines and will need dual channel memory to make use of the 18EU iGPU.

CPU wise, a ULV Skylake Celeron 2C/2T should be around the speed of a stock E8400. An ULV Skylake Pentium 2C/4T should be faster in single thread than a stock speed Q6600, but maybe a bit slower in multi-thread.

 

[VirtualLarry]

CPU wise, a ULV Skylake Celeron 2C/2T should be around the speed of a stock E8400. An ULV Skylake Pentium 2C/4T should be faster in single thread than a stock speed Q6600, but maybe a bit slower in multi-thread.

15W Q6600-equivalent? Yes, please! Would be great for DC.

 

[cbn]

With Nvidia Pascal, I have to wonder how much the unified memory would help these Core 2 Pre-builts (that usually only come with 2GB RAM)

http://news.softpedia.com/news/With...-Will-Access-Each-Other-s-Memory-434103.shtml

In a nutshell, Unified Memory will allow the GPU to access the GPU's memory, and the GPU to access and use the GPU's memory.

Right now, software developers have to do that in the code of their programs, to allocate resources between the two, or define a method by which the application can do it itself.

With Unified Memory, however, the CPU and GPU will do it themselves, so that's one less issue that devs have to tackle.

The concept is somewhat similar to the hUMA technology that Advanced Micro Devices introduced along with the Kaveri accelerated processing unit (APU), though that one only applies to the integrated GPU.

So, say a PC has 32 GB of DDR3 and, why not, one or two Pascal graphics processing units, each with 6 GB or 8 GB of GDDR5 VRAM backing them up (or much more, given the 3D stacked memory tech).

That would make for a total of 48 GB, of which 16 GB would be just as good as the other 32, so it would be as if both the CPU and GPU would have full access to 64 GB DDR3. Or DDR4, since it will be out by then.

Sounds awesome if it that could work with Core 2 hardware. Maybe 2GB or 4GB of system RAM for the Core 2 machine plus 2GB on some low end Pascal video card for 4GB or 6GB of total memory?

Does that sound right? Or am I missing something? I haven't done much research on Pascal yet.

 

[deadken]

Thanks OP!

I'm seriously considering getting a: HP DX7400 Mid Tower Desktop PC with Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66Ghz, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, DVDRW, Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit.

I bought a indoor trainer (Wahoo Kickr) to help me keep up with my bicycle training over the winter months. Now that the weather is getting nicer and I'm looking forward to riding outside I hear about Zwift (http://www.zwift.com/)! The only problem is that the laptop I use for my trainer doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Zwift:
OS: Windows 7, OSX 10.9
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory: 4GB
Graphics: 1GB dedicated GPU, or embedded Intel HD 4000/AMD R5
Hard Drive: 4GB of free space

This desktop is still a bit shy, but at least it meets the O/S and CPU requirements. I can always add more memory and beef up the video card easier than getting my old laptop to minimum specs (the Win7 O/S upgrade alone would cost me almost the same as this whole PC). I figure that getting this DX7400 gets me a 64bit O/S which will allow me to utilize the 4GB of memory I'll be installing.

Any thoughts or opinions?

 

[cbn]

Thanks OP!

I'm seriously considering getting a: HP DX7400 Mid Tower Desktop PC with Intel Core 2 Duo 2.66Ghz, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, DVDRW, Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit.

I bought a indoor trainer (Wahoo Kickr) to help me keep up with my bicycle training over the winter months. Now that the weather is getting nicer and I'm looking forward to riding outside I hear about Zwift (http://www.zwift.com/)! The only problem is that the laptop I use for my trainer doesn't meet the minimum requirements for Zwift:
OS: Windows 7, OSX 10.9
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo
Memory: 4GB
Graphics: 1GB dedicated GPU, or embedded Intel HD 4000/AMD R5
Hard Drive: 4GB of free space

This desktop is still a bit shy, but at least it meets the O/S and CPU requirements. I can always add more memory and beef up the video card easier than getting my old laptop to minimum specs (the Win7 O/S upgrade alone would cost me almost the same as this whole PC). I figure that getting this DX7400 gets me a 64bit O/S which will allow me to utilize the 4GB of memory I'll be installing.

Any thoughts or opinions?

Pretty sweet that machine comes with Windows 7 Pro 64 bit! (I think the Pro version of Windows is definitely worth the money for the remote desktop capability.)

P.S. If you want more CPU, E8500 is $12 shipped these days on ebay buy it now auctions and the Core 2 Q6700 goes for under $30 shipped many times. The main question is whether or not Zwift is a highly threaded program. I would test with the supplied 2.66 Ghz Core 2 duo to see how well it works.

 

[AmdEmAll]

Bunch of garbage.. even at $99. Sorry




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[cbn]

Deadken what laptop are you using?

 

[deadken]

Deadken what laptop are you using?

Right now I'm using a different program (trainer road) which works okay on my old P4 2.4Ghz with XP. I was planning on switching over to a Vista dual core laptop that a friend gave me, but then I learned about Zwift and since neither laptop meets the specs, I didn't switch over to the Vista machine.

I have that PC in my cart and figure for $100 it's not a bad deal. I don't want to bring my desktop to my trainer or vice-versa. I think I have 4gb of memory from my sons old core 2 duo rig (which *might* have a better CPU as well, I'll have to dig through my stash of old parts). Add in a 19" LCD and I'm pretty good to go. I *might* consider using a TV later on (LCD or Plasma), but I'll have to see just how often I use it to determine if I want to get even more crazy.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Bunch of garbage.. even at $99. Sorry

C'mon. Just because it doesn't appeal to you, personally, doesn't mean it's a bad deal for those that might need a cheap PC. Think of it this way, pay for Windows 7, get a FREE PC. Because that's basically what it is. And they should qualify for a free Windows 10 upgrade in the future, hopefully.

 

[cbn]

Right now I'm using a different program (trainer road) which works okay on my old P4 2.4Ghz with XP. I was planning on switching over to a Vista dual core laptop that a friend gave me, but then I learned about Zwift and since neither laptop meets the specs, I didn't switch over to the Vista machine.

I have that PC in my cart and figure for $100 it's not a bad deal. I don't want to bring my desktop to my trainer or vice-versa. I think I have 4gb of memory from my sons old core 2 duo rig (which *might* have a better CPU as well, I'll have to dig through my stash of old parts). Add in a 19" LCD and I'm pretty good to go. I *might* consider using a TV later on (LCD or Plasma), but I'll have to see just how often I use it to determine if I want to get even more crazy.

You might want to look into one of those remote desktop apps like "Splash top" (which is free for LAN use) if wanting to stream Zwift from your main desktop.

Example: Skyrim on Splashtop ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=53&v=leyx3pFzrHY

However, (based on my understanding of streaming) the second computer would need hardware accelerated decode. Maybe a cheap 8" tablet would work?

Disclaimer: I have not used Splashtop (or other streaming apps other than Steam) myself personally. I just brought it up as a second option for you to consider.

 

[cbn]

Bunch of garbage

The idle power consumption can be high (40+ watts), but for a computer meant to be used intermittently (ie, in front of the TV) I don't think Core 2 hardware is a bad idea.

One advantage over streaming*, of course, is that higher peformance hardware doesn't need to tie up the host computer.

*using Steam as my example.

 

[deadken]

... Think of it this way, pay for Windows 7, get a FREE PC. ...

This is why I bought one. I was looking on the F/S forums and the cheapest I could find Win7 was $75. I'm thinking I'll use this PC instead of buying Win7 and upgrading my laptop. For $25 more, I'll have a dedicated PC.

Now, I'm wondering, perhaps I can even transfer Win7 from this PC to the laptop and then get rid of the tower (minus the O/S & COA of course) for $25. Either way, I'll have plenty of options for not a lot of money.

 

[catilley1092]

Based from my research earlier today, that HP DC5800 can take up to 8GB of DDR2 PC2 5300/6400 MHz RAM. That's according to Page 17 of this HP manual for the PC.

http://h20565.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c01363873

I'm considering getting it to replace a Dell Optiplex 740 Desktop Edition (mid-sized model). Just purchased two 4GB sets of PC2-6400 GSkill RAM for it, come to find out after installing a SSD, it's not true SATA-2, some type of NVIDIA board with a AMD CPU installed. To test if it was true SATA or not, popped one of those green XP Pro SP2 CD's for IDE computers & was able to install with no troubles. Had it been a true SATA MB, the install would stop, unless the SATA drivers were slipstreamed in.

Looks to be a decent CPU for the price, Windows 7 preinstalled, and I have a Dell OEM AMD Radeon 7570 that shipped with my XPS 8700, that's in the Optiplex now.

My only concern is the PSU. That CPU uses more wattage than the one I have & my PSU is 40 watts stronger than what's in the HP. Meaning my GPU may not run in it. With these type of computers, not much one can go to upgrade the PSU, unless one wants to run one outside of the unit. While I've seen these type of setups, wouldn't want to do it myself.

It's a shame the PSU is low wattage, because that's a really good CPU inside of the HP. Chances are, I'll let it pass.

However, my main point of posting was to show it'll hold 8GB of DDR2 RAM.

Cat

 

[cbn]

Looks to be a decent CPU for the price, Windows 7 preinstalled, and I have a Dell OEM AMD Radeon 7570 that shipped with my XPS 8700, that's in the Optiplex now.

My only concern is the PSU. That CPU uses more wattage than the one I have & my PSU is 40 watts stronger than what's in the HP. Meaning my GPU may not run in it. With these type of computers, not much one can go to upgrade the PSU, unless one wants to run one outside of the unit. While I've seen these type of setups, wouldn't want to do it myself.

It's a shame the PSU is low wattage, because that's a really good CPU inside of the HP. Chances are, I'll let it pass.

However, my main point of posting was to show it'll hold 8GB of DDR2 RAM.

Your HD7570 is the GDDR5 version? If so then it has a 60 watt TDP (DDR3 version has a 44 watt TDP).

HP DC5800 has a PSU with 19amps rated on two 12v rails (11.5 amps on one 12v rail and 7.5 amps on the second 12v rail)

Probably the max I will ever go on my own HP DC5800 is the 38 watt TDP PNY GT 730 GDDR5.

 

[catilley1092]

I bit the bullet and purchased it late last night, for $79.99 after Newegg rebate, not a bad deal. Windows 7 Home Premium OEM alone costs nearly that on promo (usually $74.99). Will image the drive prior to first boot & install the 64 bit version of 7 Home Premium using the same code on the PC. If Microsoft refuses to activate it, have 3 OEM copies of my own. 7 Pro is better anyway & includes a downloadable virtual copy of XP Pro.

To answer cbn's question, yes it's the Dell OEM Radeon HD 7570 GDDR5 version, yet it's running now in a Dell Optiplex 740 DT in a slot that's also not designed for 60 watt TDP w/no troubles & has the same WEI score (6.9) as on the XPS 8700. According to Page 17 of Dell's spec sheet, the graphics PCIe slot of that model provides a max of 15.7W, so other than the difference between the CPU's wattage (20W more) & the lower wattage of the PSU I don't see a problem. If so, I can grab something from the Newegg site, and in the meantime, stick the 256MB ATI Radeon 2400 Pro that came with the Dell in it. Supports dual monitors with the required DMS-59 connector, though I'd only run one.

http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/optix/en/optix_740_techspecs.pdf

Too, many of these OEM PSU's are considered to be of the 'gold' standard (especially enterprise type), or so I've found with Dell, and I can always remove other power hungry components, such as the optional 10K spinner drive, if it ships with that one. There's another place where that speed can be used. My intentions are installing a SSD anyway, as I haven't ran OS's on platters for 2 years. That will save some power. Heck, I still have in the closet a Dimension 2400 that was loaded with components, including a power hungry Intel (Northwood) 3.06GHz CPU with H/T. PC doubled as a leg warmer, on a PSU of about the same output.

Sometimes, yet not always, an upgraded PSU can be found for these models.

After researching, yes I the Dell OEM AMD Radeon HD 7570 has a TDP of 60W, yet is running great in a 1st gen PCIe slot designed for a max of 15.7W. Am not familiar with the amps, only know that's just as important on a hardware level.

Will check it out when it gets here! This will be my first Core2Duo. By the time I could afford decent computers, the 1st gen Intel i series were out. Here's my current specs.

http://speccy.piriform.com/results/YWPhSlyvBnpa7JmVEtr4xTy

The graphics card, all of the extra RAM (shipped with 12GB) & the three SSD's (one's a mSATA) were self-installed.

Hope this HP turns out to be a good deal!

Cat

 

[cbn]

Am not familiar with the amps, only know that's just as important on a hardware level.

Volts x amps = watts

So for a 12v rail with 7.5 amps that would mean 90 watt capacity.

Just realize that 2nd 12v rail has to run other devices besides the video card on it. (The 1st 12v rail powers the CPU).

 

[SunRey]

Thank You!