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9800 Pro R360?

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ncage

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Hi everyone....i am in the market for a 9800 pro card and i want to make sure that i get the newest core. I am wanting a card with 128MB of ram. Is there any brand that you would recommend getting so that you get a R360 core? I heard MSI was good early on but i heard they switched from a Green to a Red PCB and all the new cards are R350 cores. Is this true? What brand do you think has the best chance of being R360? I know there really is no big differences between the R360 and R350 cores but i would like a R360 flashed to an XT so you never have to mess with overclocking in the drivers. Also, i see a mod guide everyone uses in these forums:

http://www.rojakpot.com/defaul...amp;var1=92&var2=0

It seems somewhat dated as they don't talk about moding 128MB Radeons to XT. Is there a more current guide?
 
If you are getting a 9800 card now, then it probably should be R360 as most of the latest cards have R360. You should probably ask the vendor if it is really R360, and then peel of the heatsink in front of him to be 100% sure. Oh, and make sure you get 256bit memory bus width as well, my 9800 pro is a Sapphire card and it is R360 core, so maybe you'd want to try that.


Oh, and I feel a little dumb asking this, but I'm still new, what is PCB? is it the color of the card? What difference does it make?
 
i got a bba 9800 pro, got it last august. is there anyway i can check if it is R350 or R360 core ?
Thanx in advance
 
take pliers and squeeze the plastic pins on the bottom of the heatsink. lift it up, wipe the goop off and look to see what it says.

ati tool isn't as reliable, but you can try that too.
 
Im selling a Powered by ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb 256Bit R360 Core with USPS Shipping included for $165. Its a great deal and a great card exactly what your looking for to. Its onl 6 months old and most of the cables are still in original packaging. You should look for it on this site the name of the seller is SHAOTAI. Check it out
 
Well, this is timely.

OK, I have an MSI Radeon 9800 Pro with the green PCB and the R360 core. I agree with you that the "new" cards have the red PCB, the regular OEM ATI heatsink, and come with the R350 GPU. All in all, it looks like the standard reference design board.

This past weekend, I followed the intructions posted at the link at the top of this threat to "upgrade" its BIOS to XT. Short answer: it does work, BUT I set it back anyway.

First of all, the card is recognized by the ATI drivers as a 9800XT right out of the box, though with only 128 MB of memory and at 9800Pro memory and GPU speeds. OK. I flashed it using the approrpiate XT BIOS. This supposedly opens up a few extra pipelines in the GPU, BUT, there is NO BENCHMARKING DIFFERENCES between the OEM MSI Bios and the XT Bios. I could manually tweak the memory/GPU timings to get the cards running at the same speeds too, and there was no change.

We can therefore conclude two things: 1) the OEM MSI Bios already unlocks the extra XT pipelines right out of the box (GOOD!!) or, 2) The XT BIOS available for this card doesn't unluck the extra pipelines in the R360 GPU (BAD!!).

Yes, the new XT BIOS does increase the clock rate, but there are many software tools that do this too, ranging from ATITool to the Omega driver set.

Anyway, I do think it is worth trying to get the old, green MSI card, since it is very fast, has a nice heatsink that cools the ram too, and it has the R360 core. It benchmarks faster than other 9800Pro cards. Mine overclocks to amazingly high speeds - far higher than a stock XT board. Just don't bother with the BIOS upgrade.

-Llama
 
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