9800 pro 3dmark 2001 scores

[thetman]

I just bought me a Sapphire Radeon 9800 pro. I ran 3dmark 2001 and got 12,298. Is this about normal for 9800 pros?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Seem very low, what is your system config and what drivers are you using. Are you sure the card is a pro and not an SE?

-Kevin

 

[thetman]

sorry, I didn't realize my link in my sig wasn't working. I'm running at 2500+ barton, not overclocked, and 512 mb of crucial 2100. I'm positive the card is a pro. The one thing I didn't notice was in the 3dmark report, it said this, "Rate 4x, 8x (4x enabled)" Could this be the problem? If so, how do I change it to 8x? I looked in bios and all it said was agp 8x enable/disable and I had it enabled.

 

[Avalon]

We're going to need your system specs and what settings you rank 3dmark 2001 on. You may have run the program at higher than normal specs. Also, check your video card's control panel. You may have anti aliasing or anisotropic filtering forced on. Make sure they are set at application preference, and try benching again.

*Edit
That was a fast reply
Well, it seems like with your setup, you should be getting about 15000 points. You PC2100 ram is probably what's killing you. You must be running asynch with your CPU (133mhz vs 166mhz). Not sure what the rate means. I don't know if it's talking about AA/AF or your AGP setting. Check in your card's display control panel and see if AA or AF are forced on.

 

[Gamingphreek]

8X AGP will make no difference unless your doing highend worsktation stuff, but having it on does make about 60-70points difference. As for your system... i would definatley see a problem with your memory. You need to OC you memory to sync with your FSB. You are really taking a performance hit right now. If you dont want to OC than get 2700 memory or get 3200memory (and underclock the 3200).

In the program do what avalon said, tell us the settings you ran at. Make sure its at defaults, using no AA, 1024x768, D3D TRUE hardware.

Just tell us

-Kevin

 

[thetman]

I did run the benchmark at default settings. I know my ram is hurting me, I'll be upgrading it when I get some money. Do you think that is the major problem here?

 

[Avalon]

Aside from anything I'm overlooking, your memory is the single hugest problem you have. Once you get it upgraded to PC3200, you'll notice a difference. Hopefully your scores will take a nice jump as well. Let me find out for you. I'm going to reboot, set my mobile to stock 2500+ speeds, and set my ram to PC2100. I'll run 3dmark2k1 and see if I get a score like yours.

I got 13394, as opposed to my normal setup run of ~17000. About 4000 points in going from DDR433 to DDR266 asynch style. I suspect that getting PC3200 memory for you will yield you a boost of about 1500-2000 points. Something else is wrong though. Is your 9800 pro a 256bit card or 128bit? Could you provide a link to the item please? I'm thinking you have a 128bit card.

If you do indeed have a 256bit card and not those fake 128bit knockoffs, did you properly clean all previous drivers off your system before installing? Sometimes driver confliction causes decreased performance.

 

[thetman]

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-268&depa=0
^ that's the card I got. ATITool also confirms that it is 256-bit and not 128.
I did also make sure to clean all previous drivers off my computer before installing.
Also, thanks a ton for your help.

 

[NYHoustonman]

If it helps, I get like 12800 with my setup. I guess you should be getting a little higher. As long as your games run fine you should be ok though.

 

[CrazyGamer]

I am scoring 14000-14250 range with my radeon 9500 pro (clocked to 9700 pro stock speeds). The ram could be hurting your performance, although it shouldnt be by that much. In fact when I ran this same card in my athlon xp 1600 with crucial pc2100 at stock speeds (not the 9700 pro settings) I was hitting 10100~ range, by increasing to a barton 2500+ and 1gb corsair pc3200 ram my scores at stock increased to 12000~ range. If you are not already you should be able to run that crucial ram at pc2700 with no problems (not guaranteed unfortunately but my crucial did it fine before I upgraded). Not sure that this is your problem or not but load up your driver properties and goto the openGL and direct3d tabs, make sure all options on both are full set to performance, dont use the slider at the top make sure to do the sliders at bottom for full effect. Make sure truform is off as well as vsync and leave AA/AF etc checked for application preference so they are not forced on. If you had to make changes to some of those settings re-run the 3dmark test after a fresh reboot for best results (make sure its running default setup, click change button under display&cpu and click the defaults button and click ok etc) and check your scores. Also try the Omega Drivers which are tweaked for performance and better image quality. At first it was proven that there was little to no difference in AGP 4x and 8x however I dont recall any of these tests being performed on a 9800 or other high-end card so that may be an issue, if its enabled in bios make sure to check in your driver properties (smartgart tab) that agp or video acceleration is set to full or 8x where appropiate and fast writes is turned off. That's all I can think of offhand, good luck and try below for the tweak drivers. It has built in overclocking utility as well (radlinker) but that may be best left alone just wanted to note it was there for future use. Good luck.

http://www.omegacorner.com/

PS: As someone said above what really matters is your performance in games (you like to play), so when you are done with testing/benchmarks etc try adjusting the settings to what you prefer for image quality and performance ratio. Vsync + Truform on as well as forced 4x AA 8x AF will make your games look good as well as run smooth as long as your resolutions are not set too high. If you run at really high resolutions 1600X1200 for example then you may want to stick to the performance settings to avoid problems with fps.

 

[robcy]

thetman= I think that your memory is surely holding you back, but I also think there are other settings involved. Make sure the setting in the driver screen are set correctly (lowest detail/v-sync off)

NYHoustonman= something seems a little odd with your setup too. I was getting 12274 with a 1800+ and a 9700PRO, and got a 15852 with a 2600+ (133fsb) and a 9700PRO, your 2400+/9800+ PRO should really be in the 15k's. The above numbers are all at stock speeds for both CPU, and GPU.

 

[CraigRT]

I got just below 16,000 with an XP2500+ and 9800 Pro.

 

[NYHoustonman]

Originally posted by: robcy
thetman= I think that your memory is surely holding you back, but I also think there are other settings involved. Make sure the setting in the driver screen are set correctly (lowest detail/v-sync off)

NYHoustonman= something seems a little odd with your setup too. I was getting 12274 with a 1800+ and a 9700PRO, and got a 15852 with a 2600+ (133fsb) and a 9700PRO, your 2400+/9800+ PRO should really be in the 15k's. The above numbers are all at stock speeds for both CPU, and GPU.

What could it be, then? I really wouldn't know where to start. I've followed BIOS optimization guides, etc. I run the benchmark with the ATI control panel @ "balanced." Basically, even after a fresh reformat (a while back) it wasn't any different.

 

[CrazyGamer]

What could it be, then? I really wouldn't know where to start. I've followed BIOS optimization guides, etc. I run the benchmark with the ATI control panel @ "balanced." Basically, even after a fresh reformat (a while back) it wasn't any different.

NYHoustonman your problem is probably that you have it set to balanced, everybody else sets their sliders to full performance (to the left) for benchmarking, but for actual everyday usage your setting is more than likely better but that does come at cost of some fps and lower scores in the tests. I see your mobo is only agp 4x also, that may also affect the scores slightly as well as the 133 fsb. But try those omega drivers I posted earlier, they are truly tweaked to the max beyond normal ati releases, and he has just released the ones based on 4.6 catalyst.

 

[Gamingphreek]

AGP 8x makes no difference unless you are doing high end stuff. I ran a couple benches with and without AGP 8X and it made a difference of ~70 points, which is definately in a margin of error.

-Kevin

 

[stnicralisk]

3dmark01 is almost all cpu limited.

There are very few tests in it that are GPU.

That is all.

 

[Philbill]

I get 15000 with a new 6800 128Mb standard card which sounds low compared to others on this forum. Direct X 9.0c and latest driver was used.
Athlon 2800 XP 1gig Ram

 

[Marsumane]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk
3dmark01 is almost all cpu limited.

There are very few tests in it that are GPU.

That is all.

Cpu limited!? TRY THIS THEN:
400mhz P2, 160mb pc100 ram, geforce 3 ti200 @ 206/481
Nature: 26fps

Tell me how a 400mhz cpu can get this high? Its all the GF3 doing nature.
For reference, on a 2500+ @ 2266mhz, i was getting only about 40fps w/ the same card. And thats only at certian points it would peak that high. avg was upper 30's.

Anyways, your score is way low. check your control pannel and make sure aa and af are at "application preference"

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk
3dmark01 is almost all cpu limited.

There are very few tests in it that are GPU.

That is all.

That just about sums it up. I get in the 14k range with my main rig, what's funny is if I overclock the card, 3dmark'01 scores go down, dipping into the 13k range. 3dmark'03 scores, otoh, behave as expected, 6k+ with just a mild OC. I wouldn't worry about it, make sure you're getting at least 5500 in '03 and you're fine.

 

[cw42]

14k with my 9800xt

 

[DAPUNISHER]

<continuing my crusade> High 3Dmock scores are only achieved by using the ultra-crap settings no one with a 3200+-9800p should be using in-game so why care if your score is lower because you have AA/AF on? If it's to proudly display the scores from synthetics as you are in your sig, I'd say it's time leave that mentality behind and join the eye candy is good club </>