9800 GT is detected as 8800 GT in Win7 / GPUZ ?

Markfw

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OK, so I sold a 9800 GT card, and the guy called me and said he ran GPUZ under Win 7 , and it said it was a 8000 GT ??

What gives ?
 

OCGuy

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Did he prove it to you?

Had you previously ran the card?

Isnt 8800 65nm...

9800 55nm?
 

AnonymouseUser

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Perfect !

However, I sort of knew that, but again, why is GPUZ mis-reporting it under Win7 ? Under XP it shows 9800 GT (at least for me it did). Has anyone else seen this ?

Maybe it's the drivers? Does he have the latest drivers installed?
 

formulav8

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9800 GT was sold as both 65nm and 55nm.

Correct.


Tell the guy that the performance is EXACTLY the same between the 8800gt and 9800gt. He could flash the card to a 9800gt if that number really matters.

Edit: But from his point of view he was buying a 9800gt. So I can somewhat understand if he's a touch upset. Maybe offer him $5 back or something...
 
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Markfw

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Correct.


Tell the guy that the performance is EXACTLY the same between the 8800gt and 9800gt. He could flash the card to a 9800gt if that number really matters.

Edit: But from his point of view he was buying a 9800gt. So I can somewhat understand if he's a touch upset. Maybe offer him $5 back or something...

It WAS a 9800 GT. I bought it as that, it says that on the card all over the place, and in XP it says its a 9800 GT.

Its just in Win7, he says it says 8800 GT. Trying to see if anybody else had this happen to them,
 

Barfo

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It WAS a 9800 GT. I bought it as that, it says that on the card all over the place, and in XP it says its a 9800 GT.

Its just in Win7, he says it says 8800 GT. Trying to see if anybody else had this happen to them,
That didn't happen to me.
 

dualsmp

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I'd tell him to send you screenshots of GPU-Z. Sounds a bit suspicious.
 

AnonymouseUser

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I'd tell him to send you screenshots of GPU-Z. Sounds a bit suspicious.

And I'd tell him to buzz off. There is nothing wrong with GPU-Z saying it's an 8800GT. If the hardware says 9800GT all over it then that's what it is, and in most cases a 9800GT is nothing more than a re-badged 8800GT.
 

dualsmp

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Who exactly thinks they're at a disadvantage? The buyer feels it's a lower end card and a simple request for GPU-Z screeny you think the buyer is going to tell the seller to piss off?

Did a search for 9800GT reporting as 8800GT and came up empty, but didn't look that hard. If they're re-badged fine, but convincing your average buyer of that good luck.
 

Barfo

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Who exactly thinks they're at a disadvantage? The buyer feels it's a lower end card and a simple request for GPU-Z screeny you think the buyer is going to tell the seller to piss off?

Did a search for 9800GT reporting as 8800GT and came up empty, but didn't look that hard. If they're re-badged fine, but convincing your average buyer of that good luck.
Yeah, and that's exactly why nvidia did the rebadging.
 

ther00kie16

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Yea, remember someone here saying they bought a 9800gt that was just a 8800gt (xfx ?) with a 9800gt sticker on top of the old model #. So there are obviously straight rebadged 8800GTs being sold as 9800GTs. Did manufacturers get lazy and forgot to flash some of the 8800s or is there perhaps hardcode and softcode ID which 7 and xp read respectively.

It actually reminds me of my old athlon xp 3200+. Depending on the speed I ran it at, BIOS would show 2500+, 2700+, 3200+ or just the speed. But then in CPU-Z, it just showed as Athlon XP with no model number. And yes, the serial number on the die said it was a 3200.
 

JimmiG

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I remember reading somewhere that card manufacturers were not happy about Nvidia constantly re-branding the G92, because it made it harder for them to sell off their inventory. Of course Joe Blow would buy the "new" 9800GT over the old 8800GT...

So maybe some of them just put new stickers on their 8800GT cards and stuck them in new boxes? Either way it doesn't matter, the cards are identical.

Also GPU-Z is known to mis-report specs sometimes. For example, the previous version reported the wrong number of shaders of the GTX460. It doesn't read stuff directly, it just refers to a database.
 
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