9800 AIW Benchmarks?

[acemcmac]

Any idea when we'll be seeing benchmarks for the AIW versus the regular 9800? I know that the 9700 AIW's were the first AIW's ever not to have 3d performance penalties for carrying the AIW components and I'd really like some confirmation that the same is true for the 9800... some benchmarks would be really sweet... does anyone know if there are plans to run them?


$(9800pro) - $(9700pro) = +$100 savings... 9700 better deal
$(9800aiw) - $(9700aiw) = $50 savings and a cost/benefit dilema

 

[rbV5]

9700 AIW's were the first AIW's ever not to have 3d performance penalties for carrying the AIW components

Actually only the 8500dv and AIW 7500 were slower than their counterparts. The original AIW Radeon, AIW 8500, AIW 9700 pro and now AIW 9800 pro are all similar performance to their non-AIW counterparts. Just use the 9800 pro benchmarks for performance comparisons, should be close.

 

[acemcmac]

I took Tom's Hardware's article on the 9700AIW as saying that this was the first to finally match up clock speeds with it's non-aiw counterpart.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20021002/aiw9700pro-01.html

Sorry about that- I'm really not too up to speed on the previous Radeons. I've had a Rage, the classic Radeon 32meg, and now I am on a loaner geforce2 ultra until I snap up the last few components for the rig I have lain out in my profile.

Thanks for the input though.

I wonder how the newer drivers affected those benchmarks? ;-)

 

[EdipisReks]

Originally posted by: acemcmac
I took Tom's Hardware's article on the 9700AIW as saying that this was the first to finally match up clock speeds with it's non-aiw counterpart.

that's exactly what it says, and it's dead wrong. not your fault at all. that kinda crap is exactly why a lot of members of this board don't trust Tom's Hardware. how do you like the TMD fan, btw? is it the 30 CFM or the 36 CFM model? i'm planning on selling my Alpha and getting an MCX-4000+36 CFM TMD.

 

[oLLie]

Not trying to threadcrap but,

The AIW 9800 looks pretty lame...

Why doesn't it use the Theater 310? They ought to have a more expensive version with an HDTV tuner and the Theater 310 chip.

Does it do hardware MPEG-2 decoding? I didn't read that it did anywhere. So basically it won't be supported by WindowsXP Media Center just like the AIW 9700.

What is the point? What's the difference between this and the AIW 9700?

They should stop stalling with these cheesy little incremental improvements and make some actual changes in the AIW department.

 

[sumrtym]

Um, actually, it needs hardware mpeg-2 ENCODING to be supported by MCE, not decoding. Microsoft isn't exactly making the MCE available to the general public anyway, and from what I've read, it encodes video to MPEG-@ wrapped in a nice little API that means it can only be played through Media Player 9 (and additionally, the computer MUST have MCE installed for it to play as well!!!). Far as I'm concerned, keep the pretty interface because you just stripped out my ability to burn to captures to DVD and play them anywhere which is a HUGE dealbreaker.

Now, if only ATI would take some cues from Microsoft's interface in development....

 

[rbV5]

So basically it won't be supported by WindowsXP Media Center just like the AIW 9700

Big deal, if you want MCE...buy MCE, you don't need an AIW 9800pro for that, its a package not a component. I've reviewed MCE myself and give it the rbV5 2 thumbs down...I see where it would have a purpose, its just not for me.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Any one hear any news on when the AIW 9800 Pro will be available?

 

[technician]

Originally posted by: Fallen Kell
Any one hear any news on when the AIW 9800 Pro will be available?

End of this month or mid May?

 

[acemcmac]

Originally posted by: EdipisReks

that's exactly what it says, and it's dead wrong. not your fault at all. that kinda crap is exactly why a lot of members of this board don't trust Tom's Hardware. how do you like the TMD fan, btw? is it the 30 CFM or the 36 CFM model? i'm planning on selling my Alpha and getting an MCX-4000+36 CFM TMD.[/quote]

sorry about missing you back there. the 9700aiw price dip took me a little by surprise and got me to make my decision. thanks for being understanding about that thing with Tom's hardware. I really didn't know

I know this is a little (ok, way) off topic, but as far as the TMD goes, my profile at the time wasn't clear. The system chassis is done now, i'm still working on the platform, and I too am still looking for feedback on the TMD. The big thing to look out for is that you arent getting the MCX4000A because the TMD that came with it, the one with the black plastic face, isnt very sturdy and the fan is prone to failure. Swiftech recalled them and now outifits such as crazypc.com are offering the fanless MCX4000B's with the "fixed" TMD's for a very reasonable price. I'll let you know if i come up with anything. I think im ordering it tomorrow, but my curent mobo sets fsb via jumper so it might be a while (i865 launch?) before i can tell you how well it cools oc'ed. I can tell you, however that the MCX4000 is prolly the best 478 cooler out bar none, so you can't go too far awry.

good luck :-D

 

[gururu]

Does the extra AIW baggage prevent overclocking of the chip on these radeon cards?