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9700pro vs 9800np (overclocked to pro speeds)

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dmw16

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I have a 9700pro right now. Would it be worth it for me to upgrade to go to Best Buy and get a 9800np and flash it to pro speeds? If I could get $220ish for my card, then I would only have to shell out $20 + tax. Is it worth the trouble? How much more speed would I get?
thanks,
-doug
 
Very little, 9700 is almost as good
But the 9800 has less heat and noise and overclocks better so if thats ur thing, then go ahead and do it.
 
Not worth it... you're not even guaranteed a 9800np that can clock to Pro speeds. Most of the np cars at Best Buy have infineon 3.3 ram on them.
 
Even still the 9800 Pro isn't that much faster then a 9700 Pro. Why waste all that time for around 10FPS?
 
I got the Samsung Gc2A chips. Doesn't that mean *I* can flash to a true 9800 pro and then o/c some? Not bad considering the 9800XT [which is coming out soon with marginally better 14% benchmarks] is going to run $500....
 
Originally posted by: dmw16
I could always keep returning them...
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Is it worth the hassel?

Keep your 9700 Pro, besides your only going to see a very small difference... 10FPS in most cases..
 
keep the 9700 pro chances are slim to none of getting a 9800 w/ fast mem and a 9700 Pro wins 21 - 5 in the latest set of benchmarks against the 9800 non Pro at stock speeds
 
As I said before, look in the thread for the BB card. I found one that was Samsung and I am pretty sure you can find others that way. Or I got really lucky.
 
Look at the benchmarks that just arrived with the introduction of the new XT's. The differences between them are very little if any at all. A 9700 pro compared to a 9800 pro is, what? 3-5 Frames per second. Is an extra 3 frames a second worth 250 dollars to you?

I went from a GF Ti4200 to a 9800np, different story.
 
I saw that someone went from a GF4 Ti4200 to a Radeon 9800. So that was worth it then? I have a GF4 Ti4200 and I intend to keep it for quite a while but around December I intend to buy a new one, preferably one of these (unless that 9600 XT performs as they claim it will) unless its not a good deal to do. I have checked out the 9800 on newegg and the 9700 Pro cards and i'm unsure. I may try to flash the 9800, but i'm still unsure on that because I don't really know how much of a room for failure there is in that process. Can anyone enlighten me on that?
 
Originally posted by: Ardan
I saw that someone went from a GF4 Ti4200 to a Radeon 9800. So that was worth it then? I have a GF4 Ti4200 and I intend to keep it for quite a while but around December I intend to buy a new one, preferably one of these (unless that 9600 XT performs as they claim it will) unless its not a good deal to do. I have checked out the 9800 on newegg and the 9700 Pro cards and i'm unsure. I may try to flash the 9800, but i'm still unsure on that because I don't really know how much of a room for failure there is in that process. Can anyone enlighten me on that?
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it's luck of the draw... if you get a 9800np with samsung chips... be it 3.3 or 2.8 i think you're good to go. if you get infineon... best you could do is ramp it up and see how high it goes... but pro speeds isn't guaranteed.
 
Originally posted by: Ardan
I may try to flash the 9800, but i'm still unsure on that because I don't really know how much of a room for failure there is in that process. Can anyone enlighten me on that?
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There is about as much risk as flashing your BIOS.... if it comes pre-clocked to overclock your RAM. Hence why they say if you have infineon, or anything, it's advisable to test overclocked at the faster memory timings for at least two hours on heavy benchmarking programs before you do it. That way you KNOW it will be able to take the overclock.

You can always flash back, if you save your old BIOS.

And even with Infineon, you can overclock, and scale back the memory timings till it sticks. You just can't make it a stock Pro. But then again, if it is like that you may be better off using the NonPro BIOS and overclocking a little bit form there. Only the Samsung memories are guaranteed overclocks, or almost. the GC2A one I have can probably go Pro and then some. [XT? 😉]
 
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