960GB SSD for "under $600"

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    Caught this little piece on DRAMexchange this morning too:

     
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    Hellhammer AnandTech Emeritus

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    I'm not buying but I definitely want one :D Need to send some emails so I'll know when I can get one.
     
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    20nm IMFT is rated for 3k P/E cycles, right?

    Seems to me the consumer pricing wars are about to heat up again. Samsung 840 vs. Micron M500. I give the edge to Samsung but I could see these drives dropping in prices that few will be able to match.
     
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    Hellhammer AnandTech Emeritus

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    At least Intel's is, can't see how Micron's would be any different since it's physically from the same fab.

    This round will be all about eliminating the small players.
     
  7. WhoBeDaPlaya

    WhoBeDaPlaya Diamond Member

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    Not interested until it hits <= $0.50/GB. Just got a few Samsung 840 500GB drives for ~$270.
     
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    Totally agree. I also think this seals Western Digital and Seagate's fate in the SSD market. They waited too long and don't have the technology to enter (very little controller tech and they don't own a fab).

    Samsung, followed by Micron are the 800lb Gorillas. Micron is at a disadvantage because they have to license the Marvell chip they're using but that's not stopping them.
     
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    In my opinion, in the consumer space as the size of the drive increases the endurance becomes even less of a factor. I'm still wary of TLC NAND for no other reason than my gut feeling, and I'll admit this is kind of silly.. But I'd even go for TLC NAND on a 1TB drive.
     
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    What the hell are Western Digital and Seagate doing? They just seem content to sit around and wait for their product to become obsolete. Within 5 years I expect HDD's will not be standard on OEM shipments. Hell, probably 3 years.
     
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    I've been thinking the same thing. They been working with storage for many, many years and have yet to seriously enter the SSD game. I guess it's the lack of fabs and more importantly it looks as though larger mechanical drives will be with us for a while for backup and large scale storage. Remember an SSD will only only data for a year or so while mechanical disks are good for many, many years.

    IMO when we can buy a 3TB SSD for $300 (around 10 cents/GB) then the game is up for mechanical drives.
     
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    Whoa, I must have missed that hot deal. At that price I'd consider TLC NAND.

    WDC just announced 2.5" 7mm 1TB hybrid HDDs with 24GB cache.
     
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    Where was this deal??? I thought I scored w/ the 500gb 840 at $314 from B&H w/ free farcry!
     
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    I have no idea. Everyone and their mothers have gotten / are getting into the SSD game (most recently Asus showing a SSD at CES)...what the hell is the hold up for the giants???
     
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    It was at B&H Photo for $310 shipped with a copy of FC3 thrown in, which I flipped for ~$30 :)

    Ideally, what I wanted was a 384GB drive, but since those don't exist, I got this TLC puppy instead and left the tail ~25GB unused to increase the overprovision.
     
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    We got the same deal then...I feel better :)

    I've been more satisfied w/ this upgrade than any other in the past.
     
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    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Series...force+gs+360gb

    384GiB of NAND on the board but some is used for OP and RAISE (as with most SF SSDs). However, you got a better deal with the 500GB SSD 840.
     
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    Arh .. I've been waiting for these sizes to pop up, def. interrested.
     
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    I wouldn't rule out Intel from that Gorillas list. Now they finally have their own 6Gb/s controller and they own shares in one fab.
     
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    True. I know they sold some of their stake in IMFT early last year. I'm not too familiar with their current arrangement with Micron. Maybe Kristian can explain?

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5603/intel-sells-some-of-its-imft-stake-to-micron
     
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    For CONSUMER drives: I think Micron, SanDisk/Toshiba, Samsung, Hynix, and possibly Kingston will survive in the consumer SSD space. I think Intel COULD retain a foothold in the consumer space, but I also think they have bigger fish to fry (enterprise SSDs, mobile chipsets, servers, etc.). Plextor and Corsair I see as possibly losing interest. I bet OCZ will withdraw if they don't fail completely, and the other minor players like Patriot will lose interest as margins vaporize. I expect Marvell and LSI to stick around. I don't think WD and Seagate are interested, as they seem more interested in high-capacity stuff instead, the hybrid drives excluded.

    Based on Intel's fab moves, Intel seems to want to get out of large-volume older-tech fabs, i.e., consumer grade SSDs. I can see them focusing on enterprise-only in a couple of years.
     
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    Haha, didn't mean to alarm anyone :p
    I also lucked out on the 256GB drive - got it for $140 shipped with a free copy of AC3.
     
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    I agree completely. I think TLC sucks. Just a hunch.
     
  25. Coup27

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    I think you should read a bit more and make informed decisions on facts instead of hunches.
     
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    With enough TLC it won't matter, I mean if I had a 2TB TLC drive that would probably last me as long as 256GB MLC drive in theory (comparing data written over lifetime) and LONGER in practice (because 256GB is limiting and will be obsolete much sooner than 2TB). Realistically I'd have less than 30 GB/day of wear and tear on both, and the 2TB drive would be mostly empty for most of its life... it's like having the mother of all overprovisionings. Samsung has estimated 13 year lifespan at 40 GB/day of writes but they could be biased, and so I still don't trust TLC for smaller capacities. It's unproven technology to boot. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig.

    P.S. And the TLC pricing is absurd, too. If TLC costs almost as much as MLC, why would you go TLC? Only if TLC is much cheaper would it make sense. Imho.
     
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