9600GSO 512MB 96 Shaders

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OCNewbie

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Could be a GPU-Z error? I know an older version of GPU-Z was reporting my vid card (GTX 260/216) as a 65nm when it was actually a 55nm. Newer versions of GPU-Z fixed this.
 
cusideabelincoln

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The Asus model is on newegg and a few users on this forum have actually inquired about it. I think a few have probably bought one.
 
Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: geokilla
How is this possible? What the hell is NVIDIA doing??
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Nvidia? What does Nvidia have to do with this? It's the board partner. ASUS in this case.
ASUS has been known for some "departure" designs, as well has Gigabyte. It's not that strange.

 
TurtleCrusher

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Strange? yes.

Suprising? no.

Apollo does odd things with their memory buses on ATI cards, similar to ASUS' core swaps.

I think Apollo's 4670 w/ GDDR4 is a very interesting GPU. This ASUS is great for the money if true.

Edit: Check out this ASUS Radeon 4650 LP 512mb 64-bit DDR2 video card. I thought it was a requirement of all 46x0 cards to be 256MB+ and have a 128-bit memory bus, but ASUS once again makes a major variance.
 
VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: geokilla
How is this possible? What the hell is NVIDIA doing??
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I posted this in another thread, but I'll repost it here.

My understanding is that the original 96SP 384MB 9600GSO was a G92 GPU, but with 1/4 of it disabled in hardware, so that's why the memory bus was only 192-bit instead of 256-bit like the 8800GT/9800GT.

Perhaps yields are better, so now these new 512MB 96SP 9600GSOs actually have all four quads enabled in hardware, so the memory bus is now 256-bit, but then they have some of the extra SPs disabled in the BIOS. Also, the chips are lower clocked slightly than the 8800GT/9800GT.

In essence, I believe that these new 9600GSOs are really 8800GT/9800GTs in disguise, and that there is probably a way to unlock them.
 
Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Originally posted by: geokilla
How is this possible? What the hell is NVIDIA doing??
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I posted this in another thread, but I'll repost it here.

My understanding is that the original 96SP 384MB 9600GSO was a G92 GPU, but with 1/4 of it disabled in hardware, so that's why the memory bus was only 192-bit instead of 256-bit like the 8800GT/9800GT.

Perhaps yields are better, so now these new 512MB 96SP 9600GSOs actually have all four quads enabled in hardware, so the memory bus is now 256-bit, but then they have some of the extra SPs disabled in the BIOS. Also, the chips are lower clocked slightly than the 8800GT/9800GT.

In essence, I believe that these new 9600GSOs are really 8800GT/9800GTs in disguise, and that there is probably a way to unlock them.
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This ASUS I have here has the following:
96sp
512MB GDDR3
128-bit bus (not 256-bit)
8 ROPs

There are blank RAM locations for perhaps versions with 1GB GDDR3. This makes me tend to think that you are right that this card "may" be moddable in some respect. The hardware seems to be there, just not enabled.
 
geokilla

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Ya it's only 128 bit. Not sure what the ROPs is so I'm going to leave it out, but as per the GPU-Z screenshot, 8 ROPs are on the card. According to the screenshot, the release date was 2007 so unless ASUS or NVIDIA is running out of G94 cores to use on the 9600GSO, they might be reverting back to the G92 cores? I thought they weren't going to produce 96 shader 9600GSO though..

So weird.
 
bryanW1995

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Not at work today, but now you guys have me curious...

wait, my 9600 gso is 384 mb according to seti@home. I'll verify with gpu-z tomorrow.
 
Keysplayr

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Now take that card, hack 64bits off of the memory bus, and add 128MB of GDDR3. Pretty much what they've done here.
 
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Oh, it has 8ROPs and 128bit bus and 700MHz mem (22,4GB/s)?
This doesn't show on the newegg page. :thumbsdown:

So the GPU core has worse specs than the original 9600GSO 384/768MB.
In particular with the 768MB ver. the speed will always be slower...

Why NV is giving the O.K. to ASUS to name them 9600GSO? (and no it is not ASUS, ASUS can not name their NV GPU models with whatever model series name they want, unless NV agrees, i suspect this was part of the deal...)

But for the price, it is not bad i guess...

EDIT*

It seems that this card is based on the old 65nm core and not on the new 55nm (G92b) core (with lower power draw...)




 
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Originally posted by: MODEL3
Oh, it has 8ROPs and 128bit bus and 700MHz mem (22,4GB/s)?
This doesn't show on the newegg page. :thumbsdown:

So the GPU core has worse specs than the original 9600GSO 384/768MB.
In particular with the 768MB ver. the speed will always be slower...

Why NV is giving the O.K. to ASUS to name them 9600GSO? (and no it is not ASUS, ASUS can not name their NV GPU models with whatever model series name they want, unless NV agrees, i suspect this was part of the deal...)
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Because the second set of GSOs were cut-down 9600GTs, with 48 shaders on a 128-bit bus (512mb RAM). So this is actually better than the new GSO, even if it's worse than the old GSO.

I love confusing video card names. :D Still, it knocks the snot out of any other $35 card.
 
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Originally posted by: s44
Originally posted by: MODEL3
Oh, it has 8ROPs and 128bit bus and 700MHz mem (22,4GB/s)?
This doesn't show on the newegg page. :thumbsdown:

So the GPU core has worse specs than the original 9600GSO 384/768MB.
In particular with the 768MB ver. the speed will always be slower...

Why NV is giving the O.K. to ASUS to name them 9600GSO? (and no it is not ASUS, ASUS can not name their NV GPU models with whatever model series name they want, unless NV agrees, i suspect this was part of the deal...)
Click to expand...
Because the second set of GSOs were cut-down 9600GTs, with 48 shaders on a 128-bit bus (512mb RAM). So this is actually better than the new GSO, even if it's worse than the old GSO.

I love confusing video card names. :D Still, it knocks the snot out of any other $35 card.
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Yep, i agree that for the price is good...

Originally posted by: MODEL3
But for the price, it is not bad i guess...
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The old 48SP based 9600GSO was on 256bit bus not 128-bit bus (900MHz mem, 57,6GB/sec) with 16ROPs (the new one has 8ROPs and 22,4GB/sec) ,
and at 650MHz (the new one is at 550MHz)

so for some older games or some newer games like Dead Space that the number of SPs is not play such a big role as in other newer games, I think the 48SPs cards will be a little bit faster...


http://www.nvidia.com/object/p...e_9600_gso_512_us.html

 
Eddie313

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My buddy got one of the Asus 9600GSO 512 with call of duty world at war and just gave me the card brand new. Thought i would have some fun with it.

Stock 550Mhz Flashed to 825Mhz
There is only 4 memory chips on the board sorry about the pic bad angle

GSO.jpg

chip.JPG
 
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dflynchimp

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I was under the impression that all 9600GSO's were 96shaders, the same number as the old 8800GTS 640/320mb cards. in that respect, it should outperform 4670s and the like.
 
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