939 Opteron Reviews

[BlingBlingArsch]

Alright,
for some weeks there are huge forum threads around the web on these Opteron babies but still none of the big hardware sites seems to take them serious enough to write detailed reviews and benchmarks and comparisons to the existing A64´s.
So, are there any good reviews yet? I was searchin AT, xbit, extremetech and stuff but nothing. Feel free to post your sources. Guess alot of us less informed ppl would like to have a read on what is what and why Opterons are the latest hype.
thx.

- Venice 3000+ vs. Venus 144 @pccentre.pl
http://pccentre.pl/modules.php?op=modlo...&pagenum=3&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

- Single-CPU: Opteron 939 at 2.55 Ghz versus Venice at same speed with same RAM, timings and mainboard.
Dual-core/CPU: Dual socket 939 Opteron at 2.0 GHz versus a socket 939 X2 at same speed and simulating the Opteron's RAM timings.
cracauer-forums.cons.org

 

[Furen]

AMDzone has an Opteron 165 article here. It's not really a review, but rather an overclocking experiment.

 

[kamranziadar]

But they never posts the reults for that article.

 

[cw42]

These Opterons will all perform practically the same as any of it's regular A64 counter-part. The only difference u need to know about is that they cost cheaper, generally OC better, and are getting harder to find everyday.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

so you say there is no need for reviews and articles? Iam just curious why all major hardware sites would neglect the Opteron vs A64 topic. Forums like this seem to be the only source for information up to now. Why is that? Did the Opteron hype come that unexpected? Looking at the CPU forum half of the threads are talking bout Opterons, but if you try to find official reviews at ur favorite hardware sites there arent any? So pls post them if u see them.
thx

 

[fbrdphreak]

We're gathering all the 939 Opty OCing info here:
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1732085

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

Sry, thats not what iam looking for. I want official reviews and benchmarks.

like this one from a polish site, maybe US sites will follow

http://pccentre.pl/modules.php?op=modlo...&pagenum=3&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

bump for update.
And this truely is a benchmark, but who can interpret it? Iam used to very simple benches
http://cracauer-forum.cons.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28

 

[darekdade]

I am just curious. BlingBlingArsch how did u find this polish computer site? I am the hardware editor on PCCentre.pl

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

i saw the link on a german forum: counter-strike.de folks there have been discussing pro´s and cons of opterons if i remember correct.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
Sry, thats not what iam looking for. I want official reviews and benchmarks.

like this one from a polish site, maybe US sites will follow

http://pccentre.pl/modules.php?op=modlo...&pagenum=3&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

There is no reason absolutely at all for most Opteron reviews since only 3 Opterons don't have A64 counterparts when it comes to Socket 939. Those are the 144, 165, 170, all others have been reviewed as A64s.

When working with 939 the opties and the A64 act and perform exactly the same, the only difference is the opties have been cheaper and because of the higher Stability requirements use the better processes and are tested harder which means higher potential overclock.

As for 940 Opties normal performance benmarks with games and normal apps are useless because they will always perform slower due to the use of registered memory. Server applications and 100% stability is all that really matters.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

one of ur points raises a question. it sounds like a contradiction that Opterons are manufactured with higher effort but sell for less than A64. And it counts only for the single core models i think.

 

[darekdade]

Originally posted by: Topweasel

There is no reason absolutely at all for most Opteron reviews since only 3 Opterons don't have A64 counterparts when it comes to Socket 939. Those are the 144, 165, 170, all others have been reviewed as A64s.

When working with 939 the opties and the A64 act and perform exactly the same, the only difference is the opties have been cheaper and because of the higher Stability requirements use the better processes and are tested harder which means higher potential overclock.

As for 940 Opties normal performance benmarks with games and normal apps are useless because they will always perform slower due to the use of registered memory. Server applications and 100% stability is all that really matters.

Ok, than why Opteron is really faster in games? Opteron is based on the same core as Athlon 64 FX (you can read this in polish review @http://pccentre.pl ). If its available for the same price as Venice I have no idea why people are still wondering which CPU is better.

BTW
Difference between S939 and S940 is that this additional pin allows to build multi-CPU systems. ECC registering has nothing to do with socket, its all about architecture.