9200 vs 5200

[CaptainHefe]

right now i have a geforce2 gts-v. i don't play games that often but thats probably because i cant really play anything new.

limited budget so i was looking at:

geforce fx5200 128mb, 128bit, 8x agp
or
radeon 9200 128mb, 128 bit, 8x agp

both are around $65.

anyone suggestions as to which i should get? or suggestions on something else that doesnt cost too much more?

 

[Pete]

$65 where, local or online? If you're in the US, you can do better for that price. On the low end, you can pick up a used GF3 for about $40; on the high end, a new 128MB 9100 runs $75 @ NewEgg. (I'm not ecstatic about the performance of my 64MB 9100, but maybe the extra 64MB of the NewEgg model will make the card much faster. As it is, this card seems much happier at 8x6 than 10x7 in Wolf:ET, a big disappointment for 250MHz memory.) I'm sure others will post with more options, including a 64MB GF4Ti 4200 for $85, though that seems to be getting a bit expensive for you.

It'd help if you would post both your system specs (CPU & RAM) and the games you want to play.

 

[CaptainHefe]

$85 isnt that far out of budget if the performance increase is substantial enough. ill have to look at the ti4200's before i make a decision.

 

[Insomniak]

Ti4200, definitely.

 

[modedepe]

DO NOT get a 9200 or an fx5200. Your gf2 will as fast or faster in some cases than either of those cards. If you can afford the ti4200, then get that.

 

[VIAN]

I wouldn't consider those cards an upgrade. You're wasting your time with them. I would seriously suggest you invest a little more money and get at least a 4200 64MB. But there is already a game coming out with that as a minimum. I would just recommend you wait till the new cards come out and prices lower. Then get a 9600 XT or something.

 

[GT578]

Find a used or new 8500le 128mb on ebay or a Ti4200 on ebay...thats your best bet with your budget.

 

[SneakyStuff]

Find a used 9500 pro.

 

[dguy6789]

9200 or 5200 would be faster, but there are MUCH better cards in that pricerange. I can tell you a Radeon 9100 128MB, Radeon 9000 Pro 128MB, or a gf4ti4200 would all provide a substantial performance increase.

Please note that a 9000 non pro is significantly slower then the pro version, so avoid a 9000 non pro, and do not get a 9100 that has 200 mhz memory.

other then those warnings you will be fine with any of the listed cards.

 

[CaptainHefe]

thanks for the opinions, i guess ill look around for a deal on a ti4200.

 

[kylebisme]

don't expect to find one new for anywhere close to 65$. used if you are up for it, other than that there are a few geforce3s floating around in that pricerange.

 

[ZimZum]

TI 4200 > 8500 > 9000 pro

 

[blazer78]

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Please note that a 9000 non pro is significantly slower then the pro version, so avoid a 9000 non pro, and do not get a 9100 that has 200 mhz memory.

hey wats the big deal with 200mhz memory? i got a axp 2400+ with a 128mb 9100, and its got 200mhz mem, and it doesn't seem that bad...

 

[titananandtech]

I'd get the 5200 if you can be sure it isn't the 64bit version (much slower than the version with 128bit memory). The 5200 performs pretty well for DX8 level games, and for DX9 level games... Well at least they'll load. On DX8 cards like the 9000 (and GeForce4Ti 4200) you won't be able to play them at all while the 5200 will play them very slowly. This won't be a problem for probably three years though. You'll have to run at 640x480 for all dx9 level games, but it is the best choice out there.

 

[modedepe]

Originally posted by: titananandtech
I'd get the 5200 if you can be sure it isn't the 64bit version (much slower than the version with 128bit memory). The 5200 performs pretty well for DX8 level games, and for DX9 level games... Well at least they'll load. On DX8 cards like the 9000 (and GeForce4Ti 4200) you won't be able to play them at all while the 5200 will play them very slowly. This won't be a problem for probably three years though. You'll have to run at 640x480 for all dx9 level games, but it is the best choice out there.

At least they'll load? Come on get real. A 4200 will play them just fine, but in dx8. If you even try to play a game in dx9 mode on a 5200 it will be a complete slideshow. Hell, even in dx8 mode a 5200 will be a slideshow.

 

[nemesismk2]

TI4200 > 8500 > 9000 Pro > FX5200 <> R9200

The FX5200 and R9200 are about equal in crapness and are to be avoided!

The minimum people should be looking at these days are the R9600 (not the SE) and FX5700 (not the rubbish fx5600 or fx5600 xt) or the gf4 ti4200 (it's still a great video card).

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Insomniak
Ti4200, definitely.

 

[akshayt]

ti 4200=80$

128mb radeon 9600=75$ onwards ,not to sure

fx 5200 is better than radeon 9200 ,overall

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: akshayt
ti 4200=80$

128mb radeon 9600=75$ onwards ,not to sure

fx 5200 is better than radeon 9200 ,overall

A R9200 better than a FX5200 overall, have you even used both of them before?

Here is what I said about the R9200 in my review dated 07/2003:-

"This video card suffers from a general lack of power, it's performance with certain games is very lacking especially if you enable fsaa. It's support for 8x Agp offers no real performance increase and is worthless right now. It's performance in general is closer to the Geforce4 MX440 than the latest budget video card from nvidia the Geforce FX5200."

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Is the 9200 a DX9 part?

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

A R9200 better than a FX5200 overall, have you even used both of them before?

Here is what I said about the R9200 in my review dated 07/2003:-

"This video card suffers from a general lack of power, it's performance with certain games is very lacking especially if you enable fsaa. It's support for 8x Agp offers no real performance increase and is worthless right now. It's performance in general is closer to the Geforce4 MX440 than the latest budget video card from nvidia the Geforce FX5200."

I hope that was a typo about the 9200 being better than a fx5200 overall.
Based on the link you posted, the 9200 even got whipped by the MX440 in certain places..
With AA/AF on with the FX5200, the performance should be closer to the ti4200...
I don't see where you came to the conclusion that the 9200 is better than the 5200 overall

 

[dguy6789]

Originally posted by: blazer78

Originally posted by: dguy6789

Please note that a 9000 non pro is significantly slower then the pro version, so avoid a 9000 non pro, and do not get a 9100 that has 200 mhz memory.

hey wats the big deal with 200mhz memory? i got a axp 2400+ with a 128mb 9100, and its got 200mhz mem, and it doesn't seem that bad...

there is nothing wrong with it. But i have seen the performance diff between a 400mhz and a 550mhz 9100. It is ALOT bigger then you would think.

 

[modedepe]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Is the 9200 a DX9 part?

no

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

A R9200 better than a FX5200 overall, have you even used both of them before?

Here is what I said about the R9200 in my review dated 07/2003:-

"This video card suffers from a general lack of power, it's performance with certain games is very lacking especially if you enable fsaa. It's support for 8x Agp offers no real performance increase and is worthless right now. It's performance in general is closer to the Geforce4 MX440 than the latest budget video card from nvidia the Geforce FX5200."

I hope that was a typo about the 9200 being better than a fx5200 overall.
Based on the link you posted, the 9200 even got whipped by the MX440 in certain places..
With AA/AF on with the FX5200, the performance should be closer to the ti4200...
I don't see where you came to the conclusion that the 9200 is better than the 5200 overall

I didn't say that the R9200 was better than the FX5200, I quoted a comment made by another user and then asked him if he had used the R9200 and FX5200.

I was disappointed by the performance of the FX5200 with AA/AF enabled, the old v44.03 drivers used in the review don't perform especially well with the geforce fx range which might explain it.

 

[nemesismk2]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate
Is the 9200 a DX9 part?

The R9200 is just a R9000 with 8x agp so it only supports DX8, the only budget DX9 video card made by ATI is the R9600SE.