9200 256MB vs 9600 128MB

Schoolies

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I can get either a:

Saphire 9200 256 MB OEM for $95.00

or

Saphire 9600 128 MB for $145.00.

Which one should I get? :confused: I have an Athlon 1800+ with 640MB SDRAM. I plan on playing Unreal and Half life.

Thanks,

Brad

 

magomago

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Who voted for the 9200? They need to be taken out and shot. Tht is just a 8x AGP 9000 IIRC, and the 9000 is a DX8 card~

then again for 145 if you shop around perhaps you can pick a p a 9600pro
 

Mik3y

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theres no difference between 128mb and 256mb on a vid card, besides the price.
 

InlineFive

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
theres no difference between 128mb and 256mb on a vid card, besides the price.

Not true, Far Cry benefits from 256MB. But at that performance loss you should definately buy the 9600.

-Por
 

Schoolies

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Thanks for the response everyone!

What is the different between the two cards? Obviously the 9600 is faster than the 9200, but what is the function of the memory onboard. What can the 256MB card do better than the 128 MB card?

Thanks,

Schoolies
 

Schoolies

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Doing some research of my own. Here is what I found from Rage 3D.com

Product : Sapphire Radeon 9600 Atlantis 256MB
Company : Sapphire
Author : Ratchet
Editor : Ichneumon
Date : October 30th, 2003

Conclusion

Straight to the point, the only instance where a 256mb frame-buffer would show any current advantages is when running in a high-resolution and high Anti-Aliasing setting. Putting it on a card that can't possibly handle that combination is nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

The reason why we see 256mb on a lot of the low-end and low-mid range cards is simply because companies can get away with using slow and cheap TSOP (Thin Small Outline Package) ram instead of the more expensive and faster BGA (Ball Grid Array) ram normally seen on faster cards. It's all pure marketing of course, it doesn't take a PhD to know that "256mb of DDR Memory" looks very good on the box when more expensive cards only sport 128MB. If the low-end cards had enough pop to take advantage of 256MB of memory then I'd be singing a different tune, but low-end cards, by their very definition, don't have near enough horsepower to run at those demanding settings. It's a checkbox feature to entice consumers who don't know any better, plain and simple. Obviously though, with full support for DX9 and all the technical features of it's high end Radeon 9800 cousin (6x RGMSAA, 16x AF, PS2.0+, etc) the Radeon 9600 256MB isn't as low-end as, say, a DX8.1 generation Radeon 9000 or 9200, but as you've seen in this review it still doesn't have the power to make using combinations of high-resolution and any level of decent Anti-Aliasing practical.

If you find yourself trying to decide between a 9600 with 128mb and a 9600 with 256mb, save yourself the $20 and get the 128mb version.

 
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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Schoolies
What can the 256MB card do better than the 128 MB card?

eat your wallet

Well put. As Schoolies explained technically below, the only way to break the 128MB texture limit with current software is to enable all the eyecandy - AA, AF, and at high resolutions. At this point, the 9600 GPU can't keep up with the rendering demands, let alone the 9200.

In conclusion,

Originally posted by: Kai920
Originally posted by: magomago
Who voted for the 9200? They need to be taken out and shot.

- M4H
 

ForceCalibur

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The only card that requires 256 megs of RAM is one that is for CAD based programs, image editing, etc. Or if a high end video that can actually render at high framerates with max Aniso + Anti w/ Highest resolution. THis effectively ONLY makes the Radeon 9800 Pro 256 and the Radeon 9800 XT worth buying for the 256 mgs RAM. No other card will be able to realistically utilize the extra memory, because the card simply cannot render at such (especially, high resolutions).
 

Schoolies

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Thanks Force. I think I'll just end up forking over the extra money and buy a ATI 9600 XT. I can get it for $149.00.

Thanks for everyone's help. The last time I searched for a video card was when the hot buys were the VooDoo II cards. I haven't kept up with the cards and it's almost too much to comprehend now.

-Schoolies
 

pillage2001

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Originally posted by: Schoolies
Thanks Force. I think I'll just end up forking over the extra money and buy a ATI 9600 XT. I can get it for $149.00.

Thanks for everyone's help. The last time I searched for a video card was when the hot buys were the VooDoo II cards. I haven't kept up with the cards and it's almost too much to comprehend now.

-Schoolies

Look over at Fs/FT, you can get it cheaper.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: Schoolies
Thanks Force. I think I'll just end up forking over the extra money and buy a ATI 9600 XT. I can get it for $149.00.

Thanks for everyone's help. The last time I searched for a video card was when the hot buys were the VooDoo II cards. I haven't kept up with the cards and it's almost too much to comprehend now.

-Schoolies

anything less than a 9800 pro isnt worth it
 

ForceCalibur

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I would recommend AGAINST the Radeon 9600 XT. I had it for a few days, and it just isn't up to games. I could not play with SW: KOTOR with decent framerates at decent settings, and it only costs a TINY bit less than the Radeon 9800 Pro. This is because the 9600XT only has 4 pipelines, while the 9700 and 9800s have 8. Take a look at some benchmarks, and you'll see that the 9800 series really blow 9600 out of the waters.

If I read correctly, you want to play Unreal 2k4 + Half life 2 right? If so, you'll definately want to atleast buy a Radeon 9700 pro type card, and softmod it to a 9800 pro.
 

Cerb

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For $145, I'go with the...9600 Pro. Assuming you just can't shell out $65 more and double the performance (and easily tripple the performance of the plain 9600).